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mongrelion | 1 year ago

I don't know if this is going to help you answer your questions but here is some background information: 1. In Sweden you must be registered at an address for all purposes (taxes, health care, official communications, etc.). 2. On websites like MrKoll's, all you need is a phone number to find someone's home address (you can also find someone's phone number using their home address).

Based on these two facts, all the bomber planning the attack needs is a phone number to find out the address. If the victim is using a burner phone (which, by the way, have become illegal in Sweden since 2023, now all "kontantkort" or anonymous simcards can't be anonymous, they have to be registered to someone's name, and you can only do that with a valid ID), they can otherwise target one of their family members.

> Where is the evidence that the bombers used a data broker to find their target

The writing is on the wall. This is a free service. Why wouldn't they?

> removing this information from the public would have changed anything?

The problem is that these companies (like MrKoll there are others) are abusing the media license they have been granted, not only violating rights that have been well established in the EU (which Sweden is a part of) but also they are making an already vulnerable population even more vulnerable.

Grandmas and Granpas are being targeted by scammers with all sorts of schemes, and where do they get phone numbers and also a quick profile of the target? via these websites.

So yeah, removing this information from the public would change something, perhaps not necessarily to the gang wars, but for sure for the safety of the public in general (gang family members would be harder to find).

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eesmith|1 year ago

> > Where is the evidence that the bombers used a data broker to find their target

> The writing is on the wall. This is a free service. Why wouldn't they?

Did they use information at the library to learn how to build the bombs? That's a free service. Why wouldn't they?

Let's shut the libraries down too. Only people with enough money to buy books, and to pay for street informants, should be able to bomb other people. It'll cost you, what, $100 to have someone trail someone else home? There's no way a bomber could afford that.

Now with my tongue out of my cheek - if the bombers knew who to target because some of the gang members grew up on the same neighborhood so knew where the relatives lived, then making this information private wouldn't change a thing.

A site dedicated to strong privacy laws should use strong arguments to support its claims, not a mischaracterized third-hand (a Guardian writer describing Swedish news reports about police and neighbor statements) news report that may actually have nothing to do with the topic.

lou1306|1 year ago

Phone number? Heck if you know their first name, city of residence, and approximate age that's already enough in most cases.

alkonaut|1 year ago

Didn't most countries have phone books where peoples names, phone numbers and some times address would be listed? And weren't those phone books usually quite complete? Were they opt in then so that phone book sales people asked you to list your number? (Swedish phonebooks were opt-out). Were you offered any kind of compensation then for allowing your number/address to be listed there?