[krger]

> So Qualcomm is onto something here.

Yeah. Using 12 cores to get 16% more performance than an 8-core processor gets.

[chasil]

The odd thing is that the Qualcomm CPU is 89% as fast as the M3 in a single core test.

It shouldn't take 12 cores to achieve dominance.

[bcaxis]

Power limits probably affect this. And scaling cores isn't linear, their cores clearly scale poorly.

Though Geekbench particularly scales poorly with cores.

[actionfromafar]

Yeah, that would be like using 12 valves in an engine instead of 8 valves to get 16% more performance!

[spacecadet]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valveless

[hu3]

They are certainly different cores.

But above a certain threshold of performance, what matters to me as a consumer is perf/$.

Also keep in mind that they compared to the MacBook Air model which doesn't have fans for cooling and Geekbench is known to be a short burst benchmark. So Qualcomm's multicore performance lead might be larger for continuous usage.

[hmottestad]

The Qualcomm has 12 high performance cores. The Apple one has 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores that deliver 1/3 to 1/2 the performance. The Apple M3 Max had 12 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores, but that’s also a lot more expensive.

[gambiting]

I mean...............yes, you're right. But at the end of the day if the CPU is faster at the same energy used(I assume it is), then the end user won't care whether the CPU is 1, 8 or 128 cores(and why should they).

It's like people saying that Apple products are inferior because they usually have less ram than competition - and yes, that's technically true, but in practice it literally doesn't matter, they are still usually just as fast if not faster than competition with more ram - so why should the end user care.

[seec]

That's just stupid wishful thinking from all the Apple propaganda. With the limited amount of RAM they have, the base level Macs are not as able as some other laptops that may be slower in computational power, (at least on paper and in short Geekbench). In fact, the moment you end up using swap, some workflows can become twice as fast on much slower and way cheaper laptops.

There are countless videos/ressources illustrating that by now so you may want to stop talking shit.

Some people may be just fine with 8GB but for most peoples who actually want to pay a bit more for computers this limitation will come up pretty fast, in fact I'm pretty sure many peoples heavily using computer have a baseline usage of around 8Go bare minimum (OS plus regular utilities plus minimum web browser load).

[akmarinov]

It’s not the same energy used, the Snapdragon uses more