[boringuser2]

GPT-4 base = (or slightly better) Claude 3 Opus >>> GPT 3.5 >>> GPT-4 Turbo

[Toutouxc]

I find this hard to believe. The jump from 3.5 to 4 was huge, like coming from a toy to an actually useable product. And I personally haven’t noticed any significant downgrade from plain 4 to Turbo.

[boringuser2]

Turbo is basically unusable. It doesn't produce code. It produces steps.