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_pob | 1 year ago

No offense meant to the contributors or authors, but I don’t know if I trust Datadog (the company) to steward what looks to be an OTEL competitor.

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dan-robertson|1 year ago

Without having thought much about this, surely datadog only want to store your data and have you pay for the storage/indexing/querying? I guess your worry is something like datadog making themselves the only possible backend? I don’t feel like that’s a very big risk – I think trying it would just lead to a fork of vector. Perhaps a more realistic risk is that vector would implicitly assume datadog’s constraints, eg (making these up without knowing much about datadog) field types or required information or the expected number of unique fields across all messages.

jakewins|1 year ago

Yeah the trick is if they can lock you into a stack that sits everywhere in your apps, it’s very expensive to switch vendors, letting them extract high rents. This is what happened with the Datadog agents.

In that context, OTEL is an existential threat, because it makes them a commodity. Then it becomes relatively clear why they wouldn’t put OTEL support in the Vector roadmap.

datadeft|1 year ago

But you trust a committee to deliver one of the most crucial part of your infra?

jakewins|1 year ago

To deliver a cross vendor narrow spec, you mean?

Given my experience with Datadogs pricing lock-in-and-switch, yeah 100% I’d rather run agents that allow me to pick the collection backend than another tool from Datadog.

lokar|1 year ago

Same here. At work we were gearing up to use this, but after the acquisition changed focus to otelc.