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doctor_phil | 1 year ago

I don't get the American fixation of cars. Isn't public roads a mild form of communism?

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NegativeLatency|1 year ago

Lots of money has been successfully spent on convincing Americans that car ownership directly makes them more free. Car == freedom

This is sorta true in part (in some places) because other options like walk/bike/bus/train have been so disinvested that in many places you really do need to own a car to get around with any level of dignity.

It does seem to be changing on larger US cities though, so I’m hopeful.

ThunderSizzle|1 year ago

Freedom of movement. Cars represent freedom of movement akin to a horse with a trailer, except you have an engine instead of a horse.

I dont think Americans care for the current road monopoly states have, or the monopolistic tolls and enforcement.

The idea of freedom of movement isn't really a European-centric ideal - its more uniquely American and derived from being a nation derived from those escaping injustices of Europe and searching freedom and liberty.

With the history of Europe being based in serfdom - peasants being forced to work their lord's land for protection - the idea of freedom of movement never really seemed to be of importance.

Those who deemed it important probably emigrated from Europe to America.

milkytron|1 year ago

I agree, but for those that truly value freedom, I would think that they would also value the freedom of choice.

Car dependent societies don't allow many choices, you are restricted to only choosing a car for transportation.

mbs159|1 year ago

I disagree that it provides any freedom at all, since you are limited by roads. If certain roads are cut off by sabotage or other means, you lose your imaginary "freedom of movement".

Regarding it being an "American thing", Germany was the first country to build highways, and currently the highways there (Autobahn) don't even have a speed limit, so you could say that they provide more freedom of movement than the roads in the US.