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asabjorn | 1 year ago

Then the right response is, e.g.

“Do you have any evidence that the CHIPS act require DEI?”

Yes, see the relevant sections here: https://x.com/bonchieredstate/status/1766467529151557788?s=4...

“Do you have any evidence that DEI distributes outcomes to favored activist identities?”

A summary: https://youtu.be/n0fpeiFNWMY?si=eiCnRL0LX8RhOlxI

Happy to provide evidence from woke literature if you are interested in evidence of any aspect of how it works. They are pretty straightforward about it, but incredibly wordy.

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Workaccount2|1 year ago

You could just link to the relevant sections of the bill.

xenadu02|1 year ago

Those are extremely biased, to put it mildly. Also random YouTube videos are not scientific evidence.

DEI has become a new conservative talking point but so far I haven't seen any evidence that such programs do anything to restrict hiring "white and Asian male[s]" as you put it. I've noticed some people complaining about what they imagine DEI means which is just the same old "affirmative action" complaints recycled.

I'm not saying there are not some cases of DEI-induced discrimination - the world is wide after all - but that isn't what DEI policies/programs say in their text or how they're intended to work. I have never seen anyone saying we should lower standards to meet some kind of "quota".

Again I want to point out that the numerous conservative attacks on affirmative action constantly claimed it was a quota system despite that being a flat-out lie. That makes me skeptical about this current round of conservatives blaming everything from the airline pilot shortage to fab personnel issues on "DEI".

asabjorn|1 year ago

You are trying to dismiss my claim by making a moral claim about your opponents instead of formulating an argument for why my claim is wrong or an inquiry.

To your claim there is no evidence. Here are some videos of top executives saying DEI enforce hiring & performance outcomes using Marxist oppressor/oppressed hierarchies:

—- CEO of IBM @ArvindKrishna admits to using coercion to fire people and take away their bonuses unless they discriminate in the hiring process.

“You got to move both forward by a percentage that leads to a plus on your bonus," Krishna said about hiring Hispanics, "and by the way if you lose, you lose part of your bonus.” https://x.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1734374423124176944?s=46

—- Carole Huntsman, Former Senior VP at Sanofi Pharma: “One in five hires NEEDS to be a black employee for us to meet our goals” … “One in ten HAS to be a Latinx employee.” https://x.com/jamesokeefeiii/status/1737986459007590636?s=46