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mattgreg | 1 year ago

Another free + open source alt (for Mac) https://github.com/build-trust/ockam/blob/develop/examples/a...

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CGamesPlay|1 year ago

This one is pretty weird. All the docs about everything talk about privacy and security and Ockam Orchestrator. This last part seems to be a completely proprietary and undocumented cloud service. Why would anyone trust this?

glenngillen|1 year ago

disclosure: I work at Ockam.

The Portals for Mac app is an example of the type of thing you could build using the open source stack of protocols. The README (linked by parent) links out to all of the relevant parts of the protocol documentation to explain how these work together. The NAT Traversal (https://github.com/build-trust/ockam/blob/develop/examples/a...) part of the README is probably the best explanation of why the free relay you get via Ockam Orchestrator is a useful part of this demo.

As for why would anyone trust this: The protocols are designed so you absolutely don't have to trust the relay. Trust is pushed out to the edges that you control and so you're not susceptible to a MITM attack if something like a relay is compromised. The protocol design for all of this is open and documented, and was independently audited by (IMO) some of the best in the business, Trail of Bits: https://docs.ockam.io/reference/protocols.