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salmo | 1 year ago

Yeah and ESR can be revisionist in his history, projecting intention on something organic. He alienated a lot of people over time with this… and other behavior.

The book I recommended is both a handbook and a “how to think.” It applies forward to things introduced well after the book. But it also helped me understand why the Byzantine behavior of a tty is what it is.

If you are interested in the history from a first person perspective, I do recommend Kernighan’s “Unix: A History and a Memoir”. He went from originally trying to write something objective to realizing it was necessarily his personal experience. Even the culture aspect of his story has influenced how I try to foster teamwork. It was an engaging read for me.

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arp242|1 year ago

I felt it was a good dive into "good" programs at a bit of higher level, rather than "here's how to do X". Quite a bit applies to Windows software and other software that never touches Unix as well.

Some bits are better than others, some bits haven't aged too well in the last 20 years, and it's a shame esr has since turned crazy. But I still feel the book holds up reasonably well.

"Bait and switch" certainly seems too strong of an accusation, especially for a book that's available for free.

I do agree that even pre-crazy esr was never on the level of Kernighan in any way.