Of course there is always risk. But one of the supposed goals of fiat money and property rights is to reduce that risk, ensuring the ability to save into the future.
There are countless examples of countries where that trust was broken.
Your argument of governments are supposed to protect property rights still applies for bonds and stocks and other investments, so once again still not exactly an argument for incentivizing speculation on pieces of paper or shiny objects instead of productive assets.
The point of fiat isn't to give returns to those who worked hard by burying paper in their backyard, the point of fiat is to be an easy medium of exchange which does involve a certain level of value stability. A currency having a slow, predictable rate of inflation can still be considered having a certain level of stability, at least when concerning being a useful medium of exchange. I know that a loaf of bread isn't going to be $50 or $0.05 tomorrow, it'll likely be roughly the same as today. Over a long time scale sure that loaf will probably be more than today, but I'll be buying that bread in 2044 dollars not 2024 dollars, because in the end I shouldn't be incentivized to hold dollars.
And once again the only way to address "it's not good for society that ordinary people have to speculate" is by having strong social safety nets. Hoarding paper or shiny objects is still speculation with risks, as you just agreed.
No you are conflating two topics. Property rights is not propping up stocks and bonds. It's protecting ownership so you can invest in building things over the long term without them being taken.
Similar reasons encourage the government to protect the value of their currency.
> the point of fiat is to be an easy medium of exchange
The stated goal of the federal reserve is price stability, not exchange.
> Hoarding paper or shiny objects is still speculation with risk
Yep but it's a difference of how much risk.
> having strong social safety nets
Those carry their own kinds of risk.
> I shouldn't be incentivized to hold dollars.
0% is hardly a massive incentive to hold cash. If we can't agree on that then ill be incentivized to hold a currency that does care about its value.
vel0city|1 year ago
The point of fiat isn't to give returns to those who worked hard by burying paper in their backyard, the point of fiat is to be an easy medium of exchange which does involve a certain level of value stability. A currency having a slow, predictable rate of inflation can still be considered having a certain level of stability, at least when concerning being a useful medium of exchange. I know that a loaf of bread isn't going to be $50 or $0.05 tomorrow, it'll likely be roughly the same as today. Over a long time scale sure that loaf will probably be more than today, but I'll be buying that bread in 2044 dollars not 2024 dollars, because in the end I shouldn't be incentivized to hold dollars.
And once again the only way to address "it's not good for society that ordinary people have to speculate" is by having strong social safety nets. Hoarding paper or shiny objects is still speculation with risks, as you just agreed.
bsdpufferfish|1 year ago
No you are conflating two topics. Property rights is not propping up stocks and bonds. It's protecting ownership so you can invest in building things over the long term without them being taken.
Similar reasons encourage the government to protect the value of their currency.
> the point of fiat is to be an easy medium of exchange
The stated goal of the federal reserve is price stability, not exchange.
> Hoarding paper or shiny objects is still speculation with risk
Yep but it's a difference of how much risk.
> having strong social safety nets
Those carry their own kinds of risk.
> I shouldn't be incentivized to hold dollars.
0% is hardly a massive incentive to hold cash. If we can't agree on that then ill be incentivized to hold a currency that does care about its value.