[Emma_Goldman]

How far is that from pre-existing products, like Quorn[1], which here in the UK is probably the main producer of vegan/vegetarian meat simulacra? The problem is that people don't like eating straight fungus, and so it is serially transformed through elaborate processing, to create meat-like products. Which it turns out are extremely unhealthy.

I think you are on more promising ground in your final remark. There are plenty of whole food plant-based sources of protein that are tested, economical and low-carbon, while possessing none of the health drawbacks of 'high tech' alternatives.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

[Aromasin]

It should be pointed out that most Quorn products aren't vegan. They use eggs as a binding agent.

[elevaet]

> people don't like eating straight fungus

What do you mean? People love eating all kinds of mushrooms!

[samatman]

100g at 2.3g carbs, 1.7g fat, and 13g protein? What's extremely unhealthy about that?

[Emma_Goldman]

Food, and therefore nutrition, is significantly more complicated than a ledger of macronutrients. In this particular case, I was getting at this:

https://www.bmj.com/content/384/bmj-2023-077310

[westurner]

Are there other macronutrients in that much mass of food?

30g of Hemp Hearts (shelled hemp seeds) have 10g protein, 12g polyunsaturated fats (Omega 3 and 6), 1g sugar, and a bunch of other vitamins and minerals; but some brands have 2.3g Manganese (which 100% RDI) and Manganese toxicity occurs beyond 11mg (UL) and other brands don't have those nutrients listed on the nutrition facts label for their similar product: https://images.app.goo.gl/a2v9imfaWWyG5hSn8

Flax has a better Omega 6:3 PUFA polyunsaturated fats ratio, but only 2g protein out of 11g.

Manganese and MSG both have something to do with Glutamate, which apparently affects motivation; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35885204 :

>> High glutamine-to-glutamate ratio predicts the ability to sustain motivation: The researchers found that individuals with a higher glutamine-to-glutamate ratio had a higher success rate and a lower perception of effort.