[gv83]

hey, maybe you have one of the use cases erl/el excels at; I'm not going to go against that - I also like the language and the runtime and everything.

my point is just that at some point and at a certain org size, the technical prowess of the platform is not the dominant term in the equation; social merits of your platform become it.

organizations also don't see the value of retraining everyone, risking bugs, customer and dev dissatisfactions, and a myriad other correlated problems; and as elixir orgs are not running laps around non elixir orgs (you know, executives do talk with other executives in other companies - and whatsapp is an once in a decade) and given that most of us build web cruds, internal LoB apps, other small automations, they can tolerate the eventual delays of having worser tools.

closing our eyes and thinking these things do not exist is ingenuous imho; I wish I was writing rust or el, I'm stuck in python trying to convince people using immutable dataclasses.

I still feel langs like el/erl and in general pleasant, powerful but niche things like clojure, are better placed as secret weapons for teams of highly skilled, motivated individuals with homogeneous culture about code. They are not industry standard and they should not be. Touting them as magical solutions just hurts them in the long run.