[spqrr]

Consumption of all drugs is legal in Germany. The problem is buying/selling/production, as well as simple possession. I think this is the case in most countries.

[blueflow]

This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US.

[chimeracoder]

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US.

It doesn't explain the difference, no, since the same is true about the US. In most states, consumption of most drugs is not a crime - possession, production, distribution, sale, and trafficking are the actual crimes prosecuted.

[refurb]

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US.

I assume that Germany does drug testing for safety-related roles? Crane operators, pilots, nuclear plant operators?

It would be wild if they don't.

[mdekkers]

> This tiny detail makes the difference why employer-mandated drug tests are not a thing in Germany like it is in the US.

Not really. The business of employer-mandated drug testing in the EU is generally tricky, and employees enjoy wide ranging protections. Most countries only allow drug testing where there is a certain aspect of risk, and in most of those case, only a physician can perform the test, and cannot share findings, only declare the subject as fit for duties or not.

In Germany, specifically, a pre-employment test but a physician is allowed, and when employed only rarely and for very specific circumstances.

[amarant]

You're probably right that it's the case in most countries, but an interesting counterexample is Sweden, where testing positive on a drug test is a criminal offence. Police can arrest you for appearing to be under the influence of drugs, and if they find any traces in a urine test, they'll fine you for it.

I hope that legalization in Germany will lead to more sane laws in Sweden, but honestly, I'm not holding my breath for it

[computerfriend]

I saw a man get hassled by Swedish police on a train just after crossing the Øresund Bridge. "The dog is very interested in your bag", they said. The man admitted that maybe he had smoked marijuana in Copenhagen and they left him alone.

I'm sure selective enforcement is at play, but at least in my experience they didn't care.

[refurb]

Even more wild is Singapore's law that it is illegal for citizens and permanent residents to consume illegal substances, even if that consumption occurred in another country where it is legal.[1]

So you have Singaporeans testing positive for cannabis upon arrival at the airport after a trip to Thailand, who are not in possession of cannabis, have not consumed it in Singapore (or another country where it is illegal) and they are charged with a crime.

[1] https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/cannabis-drug-laws...

[u320]

And if you were behind the wheel, you will be sentenced for driving under influence. Even if it has been days since you smoked a joint.

[AlgoRitmo]

How about the other Scandinavian countries?

[spqrr]

That is insane.

[antfarm]

Possession of certain substances sure isn’t legal in Germany.

[stavros]

What did they legalize now, then?

[hkwerf]

Essentially:

Production and trade under very strict restriction in so-called cannabis clubs.

Trade as a non-narcotic medication in pharmacies, restricted to prescriptions.

Production at home, with very strict limits towards quantity of plants and size of harvest.

Possession of limited amounts of cannabis and thus public consumption with restrictions regarding proximity to institutions for children.

[7bit]

> As of 1 April, adults in Germany are allowed to carry up to 25g of dried cannabis on them and cultivate up to three marijuana plants at home.

[arcticbull]

> Over-18s can now to carry up to 25 grams of dried cannabis and cultivate up to three marijuana plants at home

[fleischhauf]

buying, selling, production and possession (there are still regulations, but these things are now legal in some form)

[Longhanks]

However, bear in mind that consumption is grounds for investigation because of the high probability of illegal acquisition or production.