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Lean and mean could mean people lose their job, lead to talent churn in the job market, wasting their talent and time doing things they don't love. Keep a steady cushy job so these talent can make great product while enjoy their life is a net gain for society.

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> Keep a steady cushy job so these talent can make great product while enjoy their life is a net gain for society

No, it's a gross gain. And probably a small one, honestly. Whereas the associated costs to society are in the billions or trillions of dollars when we measure the environmental and social effects of mandatory-growth-culture. So it's a net loss.