[p4x_real]

who said it had to be fair? Yes we do that stuff and yes we have been on the intelligence side covertly on the offensive.

I’m advocating for loud and proud here though. We have more than enough bandwidth in every sense of the word to do both. IMO we treat it like any other sanction.

Your point is well received though, we have been very much on the offensive. Which is how you know that if we had the capability to do loud and effective shit and have the world stage see it, we would do it. But we don’t because everyone is for some reason afraid to do it.

I worked for DARPA for about a decade and a half, we weren’t ever allowed to use the word hacking. Think about how fucked that is. They were making advanced tanks, drones, missiles, all kinds of weapons to kill people. But hacking??? Way too far man! That’s too much!!

And yes this is actually Alejandro / P4x.

[axus]

The top level comment was saying it has to be fair.

We're certainly getting a lot of insight into your thought process!

[r14c]

i don't care who you are. the us already bills itself as "the greatest nation on earth" (in spite of any evidence to the contrary lol) and constantly flaunts international law. how can you be more loud and proud than that?