So much for the "last version of Windows we'll do" then.
Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti with an AMD card and start gaming on Linux. Seems the time has come to start evaluating.
I recently did this because Windows 11 was becoming increasingly cluttered with crapware and AI. I have an NVIDIA and chose Pop!_OS.
I have a pretty large collection (https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz) and all the games I've tested work, even the recent releases.
The only issue that sometimes occurs is some games defaulting to the lowest possible resolution instead of 4K, which is my desktop resolution. And Red Dead Redemption 2 had a crash on a mission that was resolved when I switched to the experimental version of Proton.
Occasionally, I play StarCraft 1 and 2, and Diablo 2, and Lutris works perfectly for that.
Besides, I personally find Pop!_OS to be a great distro.
Do it! Every day Linux is better and better than before, where as windows is... not so good.
Sure there are edge cases like having to use Libre Office instead of Word, but just think of that $100/y saving you'll be having by switching! & Possibly even get a more responsive system!
been playing on a 3070 quite happily on linux for the last year or so, on a dual boot win11/fedora box... but after i installed fedora i never booted into win11 again!
Just forked out for a 4070 ti super so i toy with some AI stuff... when it arrives I'm doing a clean fresh build. Fedora only. no windows at home anymore.
While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia
I wonder if this could be classified as an environmental crime? Microsoft are forcing to e-waste a considerable percentage of the world's computing devices, and forcing new devices to be built and consumed.
And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11.
Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment groups.
Yes! My desktop PC is almost 10 years old at this point and it works perfectly, I've upgraded the CPU to an i7-4790K (the best of that generation) and added some RAM (32G total) which makes it very good for most of my work and even for occasional gaming. Thankfully I don't use windows that much, but I know I can't upgrade to windows 11, so according to Microsoft I would just have to throw it away in a year or two, which is completely ridiculous.
Microsoft isn’t forcing anything to be e-waste. They’re dropping support for what will be a 10 year old OS. You’re not forced onto Windows 11.
You just won’t get support or security patches. While people should upgrade, industries will still keep w10 around for a long time, just like they do with XP, 98, NT4, etc.
> Microsoft is ending support for Windows 10 on October 14th, 2025, and you’ll need to pay yearly if you want to continue using the operating system securely. Microsoft will offer Extended Security Updates (ESU) for Windows 10 users, with pricing starting at $61 for the first year.
> The details and pricing structure outlined in this post apply to commercial organizations only. Details will be shared at a later date for consumers on our consumer end of support page. Educational organizations can find tailored information about Windows 10 end of support in the Microsoft Education Blog.
Give me the same taskbar as in Windows 10 and I'll switch to 11.
Otherwise I might just purge Windows and go 100% Linux.
All the Windows games are crap anyway that are coming out in the last decade.
What was the last good Windows only game I enjoyed?
Battlefield 2042, but it sucked and still does as a game.
BG3 works well emulated.
CP2077 not sure.
Jagged alliance 3 should have no issues. (Why does my phone annoy me with always replacing have with habe?)
We started switching to macOS ARM this year (using the same Office365 and Intune for MDM) and yeah, there were a few hiccups here and there, but in general happy to be off Windows 11 (in time for our W10 devices to ease into EOL) and don't think we could be happier any other way.
In the budget end the new MacBook Airs are about the same price as the low end Dell laptops we used to buy, and on the higher end the MacBook is competitive price for price but in all cases the quality is better per dollar.
Be careful - if you want 3 screens you have to go with MBP M3 Pro as a minimum.
macOS ARM is not a solution for getting more than 10 years out of a computer. 9-10 is about the max lifecycle of a Mac, including the trailing security updates following 6-7 years of support.
The only Windows box I have is an AMD-based gaming rig and last time I checked the hardware isn't Windows 11 compatible. Time to check out how the gaming experience on Linux is these days.
It's good enough I haven't even started my gaming rig for a few years now... Not painless, but my biggest problems were the System Shock remake that couldn't start a game (an update automagically fixed it) and terrible performances under Lutris with Planet Crafter (but somehow running it within Steam solve the problem). I also do not play the latest games though.
Nearly every game will just work, unless you play a Competitive Game with a kernel anti-cheat. (Looking at you valorant). Https://protondb.com search for the game(s) you play, and hey presto it's fine.
Obviously it's primarily targeted at steam games, Lutris will sort you out with any other windows game (a game manager like steam but for _nearly every_ game)
pdimitar|1 year ago
Seems my support for Microsoft might end up for good at October 2025. Might replace my aging 1080 Ti with an AMD card and start gaming on Linux. Seems the time has come to start evaluating.
delduca|1 year ago
I recently did this because Windows 11 was becoming increasingly cluttered with crapware and AI. I have an NVIDIA and chose Pop!_OS.
I have a pretty large collection (https://steamosaic.com/#skhaz) and all the games I've tested work, even the recent releases.
The only issue that sometimes occurs is some games defaulting to the lowest possible resolution instead of 4K, which is my desktop resolution. And Red Dead Redemption 2 had a crash on a mission that was resolved when I switched to the experimental version of Proton.
Occasionally, I play StarCraft 1 and 2, and Diablo 2, and Lutris works perfectly for that.
Besides, I personally find Pop!_OS to be a great distro.
slowbdotro|1 year ago
Sure there are edge cases like having to use Libre Office instead of Word, but just think of that $100/y saving you'll be having by switching! & Possibly even get a more responsive system!
senectus1|1 year ago
Just forked out for a 4070 ti super so i toy with some AI stuff... when it arrives I'm doing a clean fresh build. Fedora only. no windows at home anymore.
While I would loved to have bought an AMD GPU, the power suck on those high end cards is an order of magnitude more than the Nvidia
kristofferg|1 year ago
TreetopPlace|1 year ago
And for no reason other than to force people onto Windows 11.
Corporations MUST be held responsible for these actions. If not at the legal level then there must be divestment of Microsoft shares by investment groups.
lxpz|1 year ago
austin-cheney|1 year ago
Wytwwww|1 year ago
hulitu|1 year ago
sccxy|1 year ago
This statement does not make any sense.
hhh|1 year ago
You just won’t get support or security patches. While people should upgrade, industries will still keep w10 around for a long time, just like they do with XP, 98, NT4, etc.
reddalo|1 year ago
MikusR|1 year ago
guidedlight|1 year ago
personalityson|1 year ago
Let's see how it goes
skilled|1 year ago
> Microsoft is ending support for Windows 10 on October 14th, 2025, and you’ll need to pay yearly if you want to continue using the operating system securely. Microsoft will offer Extended Security Updates (ESU) for Windows 10 users, with pricing starting at $61 for the first year.
> The details and pricing structure outlined in this post apply to commercial organizations only. Details will be shared at a later date for consumers on our consumer end of support page. Educational organizations can find tailored information about Windows 10 end of support in the Microsoft Education Blog.
[0]: https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/3/24120093/microsoft-windows...
[1]: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/windows-it-pro-blog/w...
hulitu|1 year ago
This sounds like paying for the bird in the bush. Only some days ago they said they still don't know how hackers accessed their systems.
lakomen|1 year ago
Otherwise I might just purge Windows and go 100% Linux.
All the Windows games are crap anyway that are coming out in the last decade.
What was the last good Windows only game I enjoyed?
Battlefield 2042, but it sucked and still does as a game. BG3 works well emulated. CP2077 not sure. Jagged alliance 3 should have no issues. (Why does my phone annoy me with always replacing have with habe?)
baal80spam|1 year ago
haunter|1 year ago
Supported until 2027 or 2032 with the IoT version. I use the IoT LTSC as a daily driver for everything and it’s perfect
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-health/rel...
xandrius|1 year ago
I found it a bit of a pain to upgrade sometimes but boy it's stable!
aetherspawn|1 year ago
In the budget end the new MacBook Airs are about the same price as the low end Dell laptops we used to buy, and on the higher end the MacBook is competitive price for price but in all cases the quality is better per dollar.
Be careful - if you want 3 screens you have to go with MBP M3 Pro as a minimum.
theodric|1 year ago
comprev|1 year ago
While Apple say it's not officially supported it does work.
My work setup is 2x 24" + laptop on the side.
meekins|1 year ago
Frenchgeek|1 year ago
slowbdotro|1 year ago
Obviously it's primarily targeted at steam games, Lutris will sort you out with any other windows game (a game manager like steam but for _nearly every_ game)
coucoualpha|1 year ago
thomasdziedzic|1 year ago
I'm guessing the individual pricing might be cheaper.
chkaloon|1 year ago
oldpersonintx|1 year ago
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