[lightbritefight]

It's unclear if you are being sarcastic or not.

Apple adopted USB C on their phones because the EU compelled them to. They tend to oppose standards they aren't already using.

[MBCook]

Bull. That’s why I put the comment in parentheses.

They had already switched their laptops to all USB-C many years ago. And iPad Pros. I think the iPad Air and iPad (no name) switched as well.

There were also strong rumblings Apple was going to release the USB-C iPhones when the rule was passed.

> They tend to oppose standards they aren't already using.

You’re kidding right? Then explain USB. Or Thunderbolt. Of every other thing I listed above. Apple didn’t invent any of them and open them. They were all existing standards.

[lxgr]

So you're saying that's what they wanted to do all along, it just took them almost ten years, and it just happened to neatly coincide with the EU regulation as well?

Sure, and they're now allowing game streaming apps and retro emulators on iOS because that's what they always knew was best for the world anyway. What a coincidence (with the DMA, in that case)!

> Apple didn’t invent any of them and open them. They were all existing standards.

Counterpoint: Magsafe. They had USB-C and went back to something proprietary.

Another counterpoint: Thunderbolt wasn't an open standard until very recently, and I can only imagine that Intel gave Apple some heavy discounts on the controller chips used (or even their main CPUs) to push the standard.

Apple doesn't always hate standards and interoperability, but they will absolutely try to push their proprietary protocols and interfaces whenever it's in their business interest.

[kiwijamo]

Excatly right. They switched to USB-C only on certain classes of devices and even then only over a incredibly long period of time when they could have moved all of their devices over to USB-C fairly quickly given their vertical integration advantages. It's interesting how my non-Apple ecosystem has me using USB-C across all devices across multiple manufacturrs but my Apple friends have multiple cables/chargers/etc to accomodate Apple's approach of using different standards across their own product lines. Thankfully EU has made this a thing of the past but if it wasn't for EU there'd be no change or it would have happened years from now.

[simondotau]

Perhaps it was EU regulation, or perhaps it was Apple wanting to make good on a ten-year-old promise of connector continuity. When Apple introduced the Lightning connector in 2012, they described it as their iPhone connector "for the next decade".[0] Their switch from Lightning to USB-C on the iPhone came just over ten years after that.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dwZYw2M00&t=1571s