[alephknoll]

> Which is why the south fielded close to a million man army

What does this have to do with the fact that most south vietnamese wanted reunification? You mean governments are able to pay poor men to sign up for wars? Shocking.

So we are agreed that the south vietnamese wanted to vote for reunification and the US renegged on that vote. Nothing else matters. That's the crux of the problem.

> and the north had to murder several hundred thousand south Vietnamese when they won the war?

But most of the south vietnamese military supported the north. Especially towards the end of the war. If your assertion was true, then how evil must the US truly be to allow hundred of thousands of soldiers to be murdered? Oh wait, you are just making shit up. And if the north was murdering hundreds of thousands of south vietnamese soldiers, there would have been an uprising. Oh wait, there was no uprising. Stop making things up.

> They just wanted to reunify peacefully so badly?

Yes. It's why the vietnamese agreed to the partition. They foolishly expected that the US ( the self-proclaimed defender of democracy and freedom ) was negotiating in good faith. Hopefully the vietnamese learned their lesson.

You are outright lying about basic historical facts. Not sure why you expected to get away with it. Especially here.

[throwaway99974]

>You mean governments are able to pay poor men to sign up for wars?

The Viet Cong were able to pay those poor men too, but the vast majority of them chose to fight for and to be paid by the south.

>If your assertion was true, then how evil must the US truly be to allow hundred of thousands of soldiers to be murdered?

They were evil enough to allow tens to hundreds of thousands of south Vietnamese to be subject to torture and starvation in concentration camps.

[spaced-out]

>The Viet Cong were able to pay those poor men too, but the vast majority of them chose to fight for and to be paid by the south.

If this is true why couldn't the South beat the North, or at least defend itself on its own? After the US left the South Vietnamese folded pretty quickly.

[wredcoll]

> So we are agreed that the south vietnamese wanted to vote for reunification and the US renegged on that vote. Nothing else matters. That's the crux of the problem

Just to be clear, my argument is that launching an invasion of the south was an immoral act.

It doesn't necessarily justify any immoral actions by america (or anyone else) but vice versa it's extremely hard to justify launching an invasion.