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goodoldneon | 1 year ago

Wonder if this is the reason: https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456

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tivert|1 year ago

> Wonder if this is the reason: https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456

What's the big deal? They could just fix a problem like that with software. Just patch in an emergency acceleration shutdown button in a sub-menu on the touchscreen (e.g. hit truck, "Controls", select a new "disable jammed accelerator", click confirm).

rurp|1 year ago

Oh man, as someone who has driven a tesla in the rain where the automatic wipers didn't work and I had to frantically dig through touch screen menus on the highway, this sounds all too real.

ssl-3|1 year ago

Hah. Perfect.

When my 6,500 pound cybertruck starts unexpectedly accelerating at a rate that can reach 100MPH in ~7 seconds, the very first thing I am going to be doing is scanning the dashboard for an abort button that has never been there before.

amluto|1 year ago

I assume you’re joking :)

For what it’s worth, at least some Tesla models turn off acceleration when the brake is pressed more than a little bit.

kubectl_h|1 year ago

So this is a chintzy clip on pedal cover that serves to give an aesthetic illusion that the pedal is made of stainless steel?

The Cybertruck is doomed. I'll be surprised if it still being made in 3 years.

SkyPuncher|1 year ago

Nearly every modern car is some sort of cover over the actual pedal. This is just an extremely poor design

jprete|1 year ago

One of the great tragedies of the power of modern logistics - and technology, frankly - is that it's ever-easier to disguise low-quality items behind a veneer of shiny chrome.

Mockapapella|1 year ago

It’s doomed because of the material choice of their pedals? Come on now, don’t be dramatic

arethuza|1 year ago

I can honestly say I don't think I've paid much attention to what the pedals in any car I've driven look like.

piva00|1 year ago

On a US$ 60-100k product it's absolutely a slap on the face, no questions, there's absolutely no reason to cheap out on a fastener for the pedal trim.

Also puts in question what is actually happening on Tesla's engineering org, one just needs to have a moderate amount of reasoning power to think about the scenario "what happens in case this piece gets loose?" on a critical feature of a car, not even an engineering-related study nor a big brain, it's just a reasonable thought to have, so how could this piece pass all the engineering process review?

matthewdgreen|1 year ago

What's happening in their engineering org is obvious: pressure is being applied to trim every unnecessary cost, even tiny ones, to maximize profit margin. And this pressure is clearly coming from the top. We've seen evidence of this from a number of high-profile changes that can't have escaped the notice of executive management: (1) the elimination of the radome, (2) the removal of sonar for parking, (3) the removal of turn signal and shifter stalks. What's different in this case is that now these penny-ante cost savings have reached safety-critical components.

diydsp|1 year ago

Personally I think it should be, according to traditional (pre-y2k) values.

But in a society of the spectacle, people find their meaning in relation to the larger show. Just listen to the satisfaction in the voice of the video above: He feels good because he was able to rectify the situation. He was also able to relate to a larger audience because of it. The Tesla's failure gave him meaning.

Now other people will want to be like him and buy a cybertruck and find and fix issues and demonstrate them to a global audience...

tyingq|1 year ago

Those close up photos are pretty revealing. Not just the cover, but everything around it looks cheaply done.

NovemberWhiskey|1 year ago

TBH that's what all parts of modern, mass-production vehicles look like if they're not expected to be user-facing.

dboreham|1 year ago

Presumably whoever thought that accelerator pedals shouldn't be very carefully designed to avoid jamming full throttle, because no car has ever had an unintended acceleration problem, is presumably now part of the 10%.

gonzo41|1 year ago

That is insane. especially in a car where you can't really just rip on the ebrake or throw the engine into neutral with a gear stick. It's terrifying to think these massive trucks are all around kids and families.

jccooper|1 year ago

You don't need to do any of that. You just hit the brake, which overrides acceleration. For this particular problem, drive-by-wire is superior to those mechanical controls.

moolcool|1 year ago

Oh man, the cybertruck is a deeply unserious vehicle.

KingMob|1 year ago

I'm going to wait for it to render in higher resolution.

numbsafari|1 year ago

Oh, it’s serious all right. Seriously dangerous.

jonhohle|1 year ago

If so, isn’t that the same issue Toyota dealt with [0] 15 years ago?

Toyota’s recall didn’t include it, but we had a ‘92 Camry whose accelerator pedal would stick. Possibly a one off, but effectively the same result.

0 - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%932011_Toyota_veh...

prmph|1 year ago

So has there never been an instance where sudden unintended acceleration was proven to be from an electrical/electronic system malfunction?

Reading the title, I thought that at long last electrical SUA had been demonstrated.

r00fus|1 year ago

Since Musk is a "first principles" guy, Tesla is "speedrunning" what the industry discovered years ago.

loceng|1 year ago

Thankfully the break overrides the acceleration, and I imagine a driver's eventual instinct will be to hit the break - and once they notice the vehicle decelerating they can stop panicking.

nvy|1 year ago

Does it override the accelerator?

Do you trust Space Karen enough to make that assumption?

Tesla vehicles have a lot of software onboard, and they build it like a regular SV tech company. That is frightening to me.

trackofalljades|1 year ago

Some news outlets are reporting that as fact, yes.

iwontberude|1 year ago

Your implication being its not, or you just adding nothing here?