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slily | 1 year ago

The idea is to stand up for the weaker party and that's it. It doesn't matter that Palestine is led by a terrorist group with a genocidal agenda with overwhelming popular support. They are weaker and therefore they can't be wrong, by virtue of being weaker they are automatically classified as oppressed and deserving of pity, whilst Israel being the stronger party makes it automatically the bad oppressive party in cartoon style. See also how no one doubts the obviously cooked numbers on Palestinian deaths. You can see this rationale mirrored exactly in the disproportionate criticism of Western states and specifically white settlers.

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petee|1 year ago

Many could say the same of Israel.

But don't conflate protests against Israel as being in support of Hamas. Many people support neither, but are horrified how kids are bearing the brunt. Hamas commited attrocities, so has Israel; all lose in war.

slily|1 year ago

I agree in principle, but I don't see many protesters demonstrate that nuance.

yolovoe|1 year ago

I highly recommend you read the book The Lemon Tree.

I used to think the same as you. Obviously, Palestinians are wrong, right? They rape and murder Israelis? Well, look < 100 years back, and "Israelis" did the same to Palestinians when they forced out Palestinians from their homes to make present-day Israel. Obviously, there was a lot going on in Europe at the time, so it's a bit hard to blame the "Israelis" from 1940s completely too.

Understanding how we got here tho is very important. It helps humanize Palestinians, understand why they're mad, and what we can do to peacefully move forward. I believe there is a peaceful solution to the almost 100 year long Israel/Palestine conflict, however unlikely it is to come to fruition.

raxxorraxor|1 year ago

Are you of the opinion that the attack on Israel was justified?

Btw. there is also a history before Israel even existed that would also be relevant here.

octopoc|1 year ago

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robertoandred|1 year ago

If you think Palestinians have no choice but to rape, kidnap, torture, and murder people, you’re the one not seeing them as human.