[unhammer]

It's the humans fault for not being lawful and considerate to the AI murderbot:

> a former Baidu executive, Drive.AI board member, and one of the industry’s most prominent boosters — argues the problem is less about building a perfect driving system than training bystanders to anticipate self-driving behavior. In other words, we can make roads safe for the cars instead of the other way around. As an example of an unpredictable case, I asked him whether he thought modern systems could handle a pedestrian on a pogo stick, even if they had never seen one before. “I think many AV teams could handle a pogo stick user in pedestrian crosswalk,” he told me. “Having said that, bouncing on a pogo stick in the middle of a highway would be really dangerous.”

> “Rather than building AI to solve the pogo stick problem, we should partner with the government to ask people to be lawful and considerate,” he said. “Safety isn’t just about the quality of the AI technology.”

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/3/17530232/self-driving-ai-w...

[Dyac]

Reminds me of the jaywalking law in the US, brought about by the auto industry.

This law that sets the default of it being illegal to be in the road doesn't exist in much of the world. It's really up to the self driving cars to respect other road users at least as well as a human driver would, not expect to be able to mould the laws around the world to fit their limited capabilities.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26073797

[aftoprokrustes]

I agree that the citation does sound cold and coercitive, but actually this is already kind of how streets and urban developments are designed. Human drivers are limited, so if you allow cars to go fast, you restrict or remove the right to be walking close to the road (highways). Conversely, if you want to give more room to pedestrians, you decrease the speed limit, reduce lane width, etc. such that they are able to react accordingly. Nothing wrong with that in principle.

Now, this does not say anything about the Waymo incident. In that case, the car performed an illegal maneuver, which cannot be blamed on other street users.

[simion314]

Making rods safe for cars sound like rails, put rails and isolate them for the other streets then have super fast carts that a computer can safely drive, you could have carts where you can load your car onto and it would move you closer to the destination.

If we need to design roads for Artificial Stupidity then we should design this roads from scratch and gain some extreme speeds and extreme safety from the work.

[fallingknife]

This is what we do for cars now

[everyone]

Yeah there was a PR big and legal campaign in the 20's from the auto industry to promulgate the idea of jaywalking and take the streets from the people.