[izoow]

I'm still torn about whether I want to stick with Ubuntu a little longer or move onto Debian/Fedora. I've been a happy Ubuntu user for a long time, but each package that gets converted to snap makes it harder for me to stay. I'm getting really tired of having to fight the distro and look for a bunch of my applications elsewhere to get a version that doesn't suck.

[magnetowasright]

I felt the same way with Ubuntu. It was so frustrating. I was also considering moving to Debian or Fedora but a few years ago I ended up cracking the shits with Ubuntu and installed Mint for my daily driver just to finally move on and I've loved Mint and never felt that friction that makes me want to try other distros. I was originally intending to use Mint as a stop gap until I could be bothered with Fedora oops lol

It's got sane defaults with great configurability, and the familiarity (and popularity) that comes worth being Ubuntu based helps, of course. It has been great for me and all the people IRL who I have encouraged to install it.

[jijijijij]

Give Fedora a try! If you already know a bit about Linux configuration and are not afraid of the terminal, as it's a tiny bit more hands on and blank than Ubuntu.

I switched about two years ago and it's the best Linux experience I've ever had and I do regret not trying sooner. No bloat at all. DNF is awesome. Flatpak > snap. The release cycle is a nice compromise. Really, I am in fucking love!

[rovr138]

When I was younger, hands on felt like a good thing (we kinda had no options) and it let to learning a lot.

But, for desktop and being productive, specially now a days, the least I want is to be hands on with my system.

I kinda want something that’s mostly out of the way. Heck, when looking at platforms, depending on scale, I prefer something opinionated to something that lets me shoot myself on the foot 30k different ways.

It’s not that I don’t want to be able to tune it. It’s just that if I need to spend hours on that tweaking vs using it, there’s eventually a loss. I’m also not saying something that can’t be tweaked, just that if it has a set of best practices, let’s start with those vs trying to rewrite it all.

[izoow]

I did try it a couple times in the past, it just never quite felt like home. I don't know why, I couldn't give you an objective reason as to why I didn't like it. I probably should give it another try soon.

[baobun]

To each their own but I find Fedora upgrade cycle is just a bit too tight for my preference. Properly planned you can get away with yearly but it still feels like I'm due for a dist upgrade every few months.

I'm curious to try out Silverblue, though, where this shouldn't be an issue in the same way.

[znpy]

I moved to Fedora (Xfce spin) for that exact reason and I've been incredibly happy for the last ~2 years.

The last straw for me was the calculator app being a snap. I was frenetically working on a thing, and suddenly opening the calculator app took ~15 seconds. Looked deeper into that, it (suddenly) was a fucking snap. Ubuntu developers had decided it was a good idea to mount a 500+ megabytes layer full of gtk shit in order to run the calculator. A fucking 600kb binary. And I was running a gtk based desktop environment anyway (xfce).

Nowadays I run Fedora on laptops (or systems where I prefer software abundance to stability) and Rocky Linux (basically RHEL without logos) on my home server.

I've kept myself far from Ubuntu and GNOME and stuff works and I'm happy.

[mixmastamyk]

I went to Mint (and Fedora on a machine that needed newer packages).

Now that the LTS has been updated, probably all machines can use Mint again.

[bxparks]

I also moved from Ubuntu to Mint, and from GNOME to MATE. Been very happy.

The only time I got annoyed at Mint was when they recently changed the default mouse pointer into something that looks like a deformed marshmallow. So instead of a pixel at the end of the pointer, we get a fat finger. I don't understand the UX mentality that thought that this was a good idea.

It's easy enough to change, but every now and then, something clobbers my UI settings and I have to remember how to change it back to the mouse pointer that actually works as a pointer.

[fransje26]

Mint always has a bit of a delay before their version of the LTS system comes out.

[justinclift]

The major downside (for me) was Debian not supporting ZFS on root out of the box. :(

Now toying with the idea of using Proxmox on my main development system (R5950x desktop), as Proxmox is based upon Debian 12 and supports ZFS on root mirrored (and RAIDZ* too if desired) across multiple devices.

Would need to figure out PCI pass through for my Nvidia graphics card though. Probably do-able, but it's an unknown factor presently.

[metaltyphoon]

Why not try PopOs? They don't ship with snap.

[pjmlp]

As someone that loves the cozy feeling of application sandboxing, I embrace snaps.

[nequo]

Firejail gives more control over the boundaries of the sandbox. So deb + firejail seems superior to snaps to me from a security perspective.