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mam2 | 1 year ago

This includes

- making donation to ukraine if you're russian

- not have your asset frozen if you protest and the canada government disagree

- protecting yourself against false accusation

- protecting again a country that would turn communist in an election (closer than you think in some european ones)

- getting an additional veil of anonymity if you have to do something illegal in your state such as abortion or defending gay rights.

so yeah this is 'against the law' but sometime the law is not on the good side.

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JumpCrisscross|1 year ago

> making donation to ukraine if you're russian

Crypto, much less crypto from Russians, hasn't been a meaningful contribution vector for Ukraine. Even when we look at the crypto donated, most (EDIT: half) of it was dollar denominated [1].

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/consensus-magazine/2023/07/27/ukrai...

eimrine|1 year ago

> Even when we look at the crypto donated, most of it was dollar denominated [1].

Have you at least read your source? 120 of 225M were BTC + ETH.

> Crypto, much less crypto from Russians, hasn't been a meaningful contribution vector for Ukraine.

Crypto is there barely since the Second Maydan, of course Ukrainians managed to survive without cryptocurrencies.

If you look closely on your arguments, you will find just a rejection without any arguments. Didn't you observe the recent news about Xenia Havana who donated $50 from her American bank account being in Russia and therefore went into jail?

mam2|1 year ago

The volume of contribution is not the point.

MacsHeadroom|1 year ago

Dollar denominated crypto is still crypto.

elsonrodriguez|1 year ago

Bit of a tangent, but the fundraiser that the Canadian government froze was initially organized by a Canadian secessionist and a white nationalist, and during that protest (and possibly unrelated) weapons were seized at a border crossing from members of diagalon, a white nationalist group that wants to carve out parts of Canada and USA to make a “white” nation.

Unlike your other examples, that one is an example of using crypto for nefarious reasons.

mam2|1 year ago

I was talking about the truckers during covid. and once again : not the point. Money is neutral, it's what you do with it that's bad.

The law pretends decidiing everything about right or wrong, but there are plenty of legitimate cases where the law is on the wrong side.

49para|1 year ago

You mean the Diagolon group who's leader is a cocaine using ceramic time travelling goat ?

https://www.tiktok.com/@alphaaaroxy_teammoto/video/716155578...

The Diagolon that the House of Commons said was a "violent extremist organisation." but has never committed a crime ?

The same Diagolon that the RCMP determined: "DIAGOLON does not pose a criminal or national security threat." - Royal Canadian Mounted Police https://finance.yahoo.com/news/documents-reveal-shocking-rcm...

Diagolon is a meme and you don't get it, which is ok but stop spreading misinformation.

RandomLensman|1 year ago

Which European countries are close to becoming communist? And what protection does it offer then if said communist countries use violence to collect private wealth?

mam2|1 year ago

Mélenchon in France has big scores wants to take 100% (everything) on income tax above 30k per month per individual. Do this and I will instantly get paid in crypto and have a new nationality

eimrine|1 year ago

Also if you are Russian living outside of Russia then good luck having a bank account, since European scumbags effectively consider any Russian as villain.

mam2|1 year ago

hence crypto.

Also there are many other countries than europe and russia