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troll_v_bridge | 1 year ago

As long as US social media is banned in China, they don’t have much legal ground, as it can be seen as a tit for tat trade embargo / national security

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delichon|1 year ago

I'm not finding a game theory exception to the first amendment.

troll_v_bridge|1 year ago

A Chinese company, you just found one.

corimaith|1 year ago

Applying constitutional rights to entities you don't have the monopoly on violence on strikes me as suicidal.

falcolas|1 year ago

IIUC, and I may be wrong, but the Meta/Google/et.al. aren't under a trade embargo in China, they can't do business there because they were unwilling or unable to follow all of the laws required to do business there.

Heck, Google's still trying to arrange the appropriate censorship and filters so they can do business in China.

troll_v_bridge|1 year ago

Can’t reply to your other comment, too nested.

> There is no constitutionally protected right for American citizens to not be subjected to propaganda. In fact, it's quite the opposite, since propaganda has been specifically identified as a form of speech protected by the first amendment.

I would say almost anything can be classified as a national threat, and to consider an algorithms or technology that are limiting free speech or us liberties as propaganda would be a gross misclassification. The cia most likely killed a president under the name of national security, I don’t think a Chinese company has more rights than a us president.

troll_v_bridge|1 year ago

Believe Facebook was banned for a specific national reason in 2009. Hard to do business with a country that doesn’t have something similar to the bill of rights. All Chinese companies are the same as government, meaning their companies don’t have to respect human rights either.

kube-system|1 year ago

Technically that's exactly the same thing happening here, and under very similar requirements.

Apple played ball, and iCloud in China was handed over to a Chinese state corporation to run.