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CrLf | 1 year ago

The issue with looking at IPv6 adoption from that point of view is that it only shows half of the picture. It shows the percentage of IPv6-enabled clients, which has been growing steadily.

On the other side there are still major services that are IPv4-only, and growth is not uniform.

This means the combined situation is not as cheerful. It's hard to arrive at definitive conclusions, but IPv6 traffic(1) may be as low as 15% when considering this mismatch.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ipv6-from-dns-pov/

Without stronger incentives, IPv6 may be an eternal runner up. At least it looks like it will take quite a few decades more to make IPv4 obsolete.

(1) By connections or requests. By bytes transferred, IPv6 might have already overtaken IPv4 for all we know (I'm not aware of a broad enough study on this, so I'm open to this possibility). The largest streaming providers are IPv6 enabled.

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jofla_net|1 year ago

Another good reason for slow adoption is that the pushers of V6 herald it as the death of all nat, and i wager there are certain types of net admins who really like at least SOME nat. I have a longer writeup here http://www.jofla.net/?p=00000113#00000113

granted i would love for more v6, if it yielded a 1 for 1 repacement, with all features .

nickburns|1 year ago

IPv6 certainly has its own technically legitimate uses, absolutely. thanks for my next read! (curious how many things you discuss that i hadn't even considered.)

anonym29|1 year ago

Every service I run for all time will be exclusively ipv4. Ipv6 gets a heckler's veto from me for trying to do too much.

Give me an addressing scheme and absolutely NOTHING ELSE - just like IPv4 - and I'll consider it. IPv6 does an order of magnitude more than just this one thing, and therefore is too complex to be a replacement as it adds a bunch of anti-features that I don't want anywhere near any of my networks for any reason ever.

I am a permanent rejecter of all ipv6, both as a client and a server.

For every downvote this post gets, I'm going to increase the number of sockpuppet acconts I automate in my crusade against ipv6 in all public forums by 1 order of magnitude. Each downvote will multiply the number of voices standing in opposition to your own desired outcome coming from my system by ten.

Don't like it? Propose a better standard that fixes the address space problem without adding layers of shit on top of it next time.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to each for lunch, and for this particular subject, I can (and will) make more virtual anti-ipv6 wolves than there are pro-ipv6 sheep that are real humans.

Don't like that? Demand a better governance system than democracy.

jacob019|1 year ago

Like it or not this is the way forward and you might as well get used to it.

nickburns|1 year ago

the very notion of technology factually implies that it never gets less complex as it iterates upon itself. reminds me of the rhetorical ponderance: how many humans did it take to invent the pencil eraser? (and somehow your post also calls to my mind the woeful Luddites! but i digress...)

pray tell who, my good man, are you railing against?

transpute|1 year ago

> a bunch of anti-features that I don't want anywhere near any of my networks for any reason ever

Is there a good write-up on IPv6 anti-features?