Let's make housing unaffordable, make students be in debt for life just to graduate all while overworking them so they can't even rest properly. Why they don't want to live? *pikachu surprised face*
You also forgot that they also have 100k of government debt per person attached, which they will pay through higher taxes(both principal and interest), and higher social security/medicaid to serve previous gens.
But I think it was not explicit intention, but more side results of some actions to serve some actors(politicians, corps, universities) who heavily profited from these actions.
Huh, pull up the ladder economically, have no safety nets and a brutalist economic system and you’ll still have folks writing pieces communicating surprise at the outcome.
Young generations have prevailed during times of famine, conquest from outside forces, cataclysmic events like volcanos and ice ages, and populating new territories.
I was thinking about this recently, and came to the conclusion that the generations from WW2 to Gen-X constructed a very tightly-optimized society - with no room for their grandchildren in it. Basically the economy today is a complex system that is overconstrained: there is no way to change it without the whole thing coming down, and yet it was also built for a population level that was less than half what we have now. As a result, all of the excess 1987+ births literally have nowhere to go in the society we have now, and they just float around as disaffected youth or never leave their parents' basement.
Think of all the problems facing young people today, and envision the logical solution for them. Housing: why don't young underhoused people simply pick up a hammer, saw, and some wood and build themselves a house? If you do this in any major metropolitan area today, you will get a stop-work order and a zillion zoning and building code violations. Health care: if somebody is sick, go read a few textbooks and do what they say you should do. If you do this, you'll be arrested for practicing medicine without a license, and the number of residencies (and hence new licenses granted) is strictly capped to keep wages high. Aviation: with how dysfunctional Boeing is, why haven't competitors arisen? Because building a plane is so tightly regulated that a startup that can satisfy the regulations would basically look like Boeing, have roughly the same cost structure, and move as slowly.
The one exception that lucky Millennials got into was tech, which was notoriously unregulated until about 5 years ago. That unregulation meant there was space for new people to enter the industry, and for new firms to take over other parts of the economy. Everybody else has had to fight for the limited new positions that open up in industries whose structure has already been decided.
They prayed to God that they could adapt to nature. Today people have no faith to turn to, and the system they are in is an artifical maze meant to keep them distracted. There's no hope in the modern scenario.
why did you decide they prevailed during those events? There usually was some ruling class(kings, feudals) who were fine while poor were dying in wars and famines regardless they are young or not.
They’re aware earlier in life than any prior generation ever that the economy of real stuff works on physical statistics and not the memes, contrived rhetoric of history propagated by word of mouth?
Since the 2000s the decline in religious convictions has removed an obligation to a shared “big picture” sense of agency. Cut us open, no words, just mush and goo being crackled at by field effects. Thousands of years of communal “buzz” in our biology, absence of old routines no longer exists for the younger generations whose parents bailed in the late 90s-00s
The only shared purpose is ameliorate each other’s economic anxiety by making sure there’s enough food and TP on shelves.
The dumb rhetorical games are pointless given modern science. Debate the minutiae all you want about what it means big picture but ground truth is enough food, shelter, and healthcare, social life, is all most people want
Keep in mind “disconnection” here means “from social routines of the recent past.” The recent past was disconnected from its recent past, and so on. We don’t speak Latin anymore. The 1900s only exist as a hallucination for the people who experienced it.
I'm not sure if Gen Z feels they're first to be disillusioned with or be disenchanted with work or school, but it's not a new thing.
I don't think taking digs at a group is really to help without first understanding what their parents were up to.
A lot of parents worry about is hoping their kids will be ok when they're not around anymore. Preparing for that is really the task of what kind of memories and lessons that are left behind. Many of these parents weren't always parented well either.
It seems well established now, or recently that involving kids in household chores from an early age can make a big difference.
While life starts with parents, and no child chooses the family they're born into, and ultimately the generation will have to work with the hand they're dealt, or not.
More and more, I'm wondering about the role of easy dopamine vs dopamine from investment in effort.
> JP Doherty did not want to sign the email. But he knew he didn’t have a choice. His son, Rhys, was scheduled to have strabismus surgery in January, correcting an eye issue that made it difficult for him to walk on his own. The procedure cost $10,000 out of pocket. Doherty discussed the decision with his wife, and while she wanted him to be able to quit, they both knew the kids needed his health insurance.
One of the Twitter employees who couldn’t quit. When your kids’ healthcare is literally at the whim of a capricious oligarch, it goes a bit beyond disillusionment if you ask me. And somehow falling birth rates are mysterious to some.
Gen Zers are not the only people with this problem. Any generation that is hit by economic downturn, the daily dose of new about war and the savage imagery along with the all the various health issues will struggle.
I think of as tragically a BBC ase of oversupply. We have more people than we can employ in meaningful tasks that can generate enough to pay for a comfortable life. This is the Malthusian correction in action, and a pretty gentle one at that.
Still sucks to see it consume the lives and souls of my friends.
It turns out modernism is incompatible with humans. Who would have thought that taking humans out of nature and putting them in brick cubes they must constantly work to keep would result in unnatural outcomes and behaviors.
I believe it’s important to not throw out the baby with the bathwater here. My belief is that much of modernism can be made such that people can thrive in it, but this simply hasn’t yet been a goal for the powers that be.
Much of the problems with cities for instance boil down to them being built for cars, not people. Simply replacing roads with greenery-laden paths for biking and walking would make cities much more conducive to mentally healthy citizens.
I don’t really buy this idea that’s been floating around the internet for a while now that humanity must return to thatch hut villages in the woods in order to be able to thrive.
That's not even mentioning the 8-12 hours a day many people are staring at screens. It's 1/2 - 3/4 of an alternate reality to what humans experienced from 10k BC to 1950
[+] [-] worewood|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] riku_iki|1 year ago|reply
But I think it was not explicit intention, but more side results of some actions to serve some actors(politicians, corps, universities) who heavily profited from these actions.
[+] [-] toomuchtodo|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] achillesheels|1 year ago|reply
heh.
[+] [-] xeromal|1 year ago|reply
I wonder what's different?
[+] [-] nostrademons|1 year ago|reply
Think of all the problems facing young people today, and envision the logical solution for them. Housing: why don't young underhoused people simply pick up a hammer, saw, and some wood and build themselves a house? If you do this in any major metropolitan area today, you will get a stop-work order and a zillion zoning and building code violations. Health care: if somebody is sick, go read a few textbooks and do what they say you should do. If you do this, you'll be arrested for practicing medicine without a license, and the number of residencies (and hence new licenses granted) is strictly capped to keep wages high. Aviation: with how dysfunctional Boeing is, why haven't competitors arisen? Because building a plane is so tightly regulated that a startup that can satisfy the regulations would basically look like Boeing, have roughly the same cost structure, and move as slowly.
The one exception that lucky Millennials got into was tech, which was notoriously unregulated until about 5 years ago. That unregulation meant there was space for new people to enter the industry, and for new firms to take over other parts of the economy. Everybody else has had to fight for the limited new positions that open up in industries whose structure has already been decided.
[+] [-] nextworddev|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] tsol|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] imtringued|1 year ago|reply
In all of those scenarios you mentioned, simply working more and harder contributes to the solution.
[+] [-] riku_iki|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] psyants|1 year ago|reply
Since the 2000s the decline in religious convictions has removed an obligation to a shared “big picture” sense of agency. Cut us open, no words, just mush and goo being crackled at by field effects. Thousands of years of communal “buzz” in our biology, absence of old routines no longer exists for the younger generations whose parents bailed in the late 90s-00s
The only shared purpose is ameliorate each other’s economic anxiety by making sure there’s enough food and TP on shelves.
The dumb rhetorical games are pointless given modern science. Debate the minutiae all you want about what it means big picture but ground truth is enough food, shelter, and healthcare, social life, is all most people want
Keep in mind “disconnection” here means “from social routines of the recent past.” The recent past was disconnected from its recent past, and so on. We don’t speak Latin anymore. The 1900s only exist as a hallucination for the people who experienced it.
[+] [-] j45|1 year ago|reply
I don't think taking digs at a group is really to help without first understanding what their parents were up to.
A lot of parents worry about is hoping their kids will be ok when they're not around anymore. Preparing for that is really the task of what kind of memories and lessons that are left behind. Many of these parents weren't always parented well either.
It seems well established now, or recently that involving kids in household chores from an early age can make a big difference.
While life starts with parents, and no child chooses the family they're born into, and ultimately the generation will have to work with the hand they're dealt, or not.
More and more, I'm wondering about the role of easy dopamine vs dopamine from investment in effort.
[+] [-] silverquiet|1 year ago|reply
One of the Twitter employees who couldn’t quit. When your kids’ healthcare is literally at the whim of a capricious oligarch, it goes a bit beyond disillusionment if you ask me. And somehow falling birth rates are mysterious to some.
[+] [-] purpleteam81|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] j45|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] Pet_Ant|1 year ago|reply
Still sucks to see it consume the lives and souls of my friends.
[+] [-] g8oz|1 year ago|reply
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/04/18/reasons-to-be-c...
[+] [-] devwastaken|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] jwells89|1 year ago|reply
Much of the problems with cities for instance boil down to them being built for cars, not people. Simply replacing roads with greenery-laden paths for biking and walking would make cities much more conducive to mentally healthy citizens.
I don’t really buy this idea that’s been floating around the internet for a while now that humanity must return to thatch hut villages in the woods in order to be able to thrive.
[+] [-] reducesuffering|1 year ago|reply