[akgoel]

When I was on Ozempic, I just didn't want the milkshake. It rewires all reward centers.

[odiroot]

If they invent something like this but for procrastination, they'd get a Nobel prize.

[galangalalgol]

It is called dexamphetamine. Or more more commonly these days, lysdexamphetamine.

[fooker]

Adderall is used pretty effectively for this.

[aleksiy123]

Adderall and Vyvanse?

[someplaceguy]

Oh God, imagine the self-, peer, and top-down pressure to take that, both for students and working adults.

[spirit557]

You cant take these drugs forever afaik. Do they have permanent effects? It's just absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs in the first place but it makes total sense when you look at America for example. Awash in hyperpalatable processed "food" and corrupt food guidelines, a medical industry that "manages" chronic metabolic preventable disease but never cures it when probably 99% of cases could be reversed naturally. Big pharma and big food play their roles. Just insanity.

[JumpCrisscross]

> absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs in the first place

GLP-1 looks increasingly like a miracle drug. We see problems of addiction and obesity skyrocketing across the developing world. It’s not cost free, but it’s a hell of a lot better than the majority of America, China and India becoming potatoes.

When vitamins were discovered, there was similar moralising about there being no free lunch. With the benefit of hindsight those concerns were misfounded. Perhaps Ozempic has terrible side effects that haven’t been noticed since 2005. Given that timeline, however, we can confidently say someone obese taking the drug is better off with it.

> never cures it

I have friends who took it, lost weight and then stopped. The rebound was real but nowhere close to what they lost. (The lifestyle changes also mostly stuck.) For all practical purposes, their fatness was cured.

> when probably 99% of cases could be reversed naturally

Scientifically unfounded.

[Eisenstein]

It is absurd to you because you don't constantly crave food. It is easy for someone to say 'just don't eat so much' when they don't want to, but it is hard to not do something when you want it constantly and have access to it. Next time you are really thirsty, just don't drink anything -- then imagine something like that all the time.

> when probably 99% of cases could be reversed naturally.

What does that even mean? We aren't 'naturally' exposed to such calorie dense foods all the time and aren't 'naturally' supposed to be able to get any food with so little effort. What is natural about processed foods?

[PierceJoy]

On the contrary, most weight loss doctors consider these drugs to be like statins. You take them for the rest of your life. The number of people who maintain healthy habits after stopping them is shockingly low.

[copx]

>It's just absurd to me the world has come to the point that we need these drugs

I agree. People did not need these drugs in the past but instead of fixing the social and economic structures which caused the obesity epidemic we tell people to take drugs to manage.

Oh, and take Adderall so you can focus. Again, nobody needed this in the past.

And Xanax to manage the anxiety people did not use to have either.

Feel unhappy and alone? They will make a pill for that too.

"Brave New World" turned out to be even more prophetic than "1984".

[someplaceguy]

May I ask about your experience since leaving Ozempic compared to before you started taking it?

I'm not considering taking Ozempic nor am I aware of anyone who has, so I'm curious.

[nvahalik]

I haven't taken it, but my wife has and since she's been off, while she is eating more, it mainly appears to be maintenance as she's not really losing nor gaining weight anymore. Food just doesn't seem to be as big of a deal. We can enjoy a nice steak going out it's not as much as a draw.

[chpatrick]

But it still doesn't sound like a sustainable lifetime solution.

I think it makes great sense if you're badly out of shape, you fix it, and then you can maintain a healthy weight. But going on ozempic every few years sounds really bad.

[kelseyfrog]

"Sounds really bad" is orthogonal to "is really bad".

There's a heuristic that goes, "Shortcuts will catch up to people eventually," but I'm ok with letting the evidence bear that out.

[criddell]

> doesn’t sound like a sustainable lifetime solution

Would you same the same thing about insulin or statins or even caffeine? Why couldn’t something like Ozempic be something you take long term?

[kergonath]

The way it is done, people take them for the rest of their lives. It is not something you are supposed to get only for a while, it is not a cure in that sense. It’s still miles better than the alternative, which is staying obese.

[sniggers]

For me, it's just less hunger and being full faster. I still want the milkshake, just a smaller one and less often.