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starfleet_bop | 1 year ago

It violates the right to confront one’s accuser / question the witness in court.

Presumption of guilt by default, requiring you to pay the fine before you’re allowed to contest the alleged infraction.

Absolute rules usually means less natural justice, there are times when pursuing minor violations are not in the public interest.

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acdha|1 year ago

You know, rather that making something you could just look at the literal decades of legal history here. People have been contesting camera tickets since the 20th century and the article specifically notes that they retain the video footage long enough to cover the adjudication period where someone has the right to challenge the ticket and would have access to the recording for that purpose.

Where I live, every ticket arrives with a link to view the video. This has lead to really telling moments where people have ranted about the “trap” and some even share the videos, which reliably show them rolling through stop signs or red lights.

starfleet_bop|1 year ago

Because legal precedent has never been overturned …

Also the fact that you’re only allowed to contest an allegation within an arbitrary amount of time hardly seems in concordance with natural justice.

Axsuul|1 year ago

"A person who is ticketed would have access to the recording, Territo said, and the ability to challenge the violation — a process that can take months."