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jhart99 | 1 year ago

Ahhh thank you! I was wondering why the energy had to be so precise. That makes a ton of sense why it has to be so accurate. What makes this transition so low energy? The only other atomic excited state I have any knowledge of is the iron excited state used in Mossbauer spectroscopy. That transition is much higher energy. Also that one has some coupling to the electronic state of the nucleus. Does this Thorium transition have some special reason that it isn't coupled to the electronic state?

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adrian_b|1 year ago

The radiation emitted when nuclei transition between their internal energy levels is known as gamma rays.

The gamma rays normally have energies per photon many orders of magnitude greater than for visible light and also much greater than for X-rays (which are produced by electrons accelerated by very high voltages when hitting a target).

The thorium 229 nucleus is the only one that can emit gamma rays that are so low in energy that their energy is not only lower than for X-rays, but it is also lower than for many sources of ultraviolet light. For instance the ultraviolet light used in state-of-the-art lithography for semiconductor manufacturing has much higher frequency (shorter wavelength), by about ten times.

These gamma rays of the Th229 have a wavelength that is not much shorter than the 184-nm ultraviolet light that can be obtained with a mercury-vapor lamp.

What is important is that for such a frequency/wavelength it is possible to build laser sources, which enables the design of an atomic clock that will use thorium 229 nuclei instead of neutral atoms or ions of other elements (like ytterbium, lutetium, strontium, aluminum).

bawana|1 year ago

Arent gamma, x, and uv ALL em radiation? What makes a gamma with a wavelength near uv still allow it to be called gamma? Why dont we say the nucleon emits uv at 148 when it transitions to its ground state?

twic|1 year ago

I found a paper which measured the energy of the transition [0], but it doesn't talk about why it's so low. Might be a starting point if you have more time to read than i do, though!

EDIT Hmm [1]:

> Interestingly, the existence of a nuclear excited state of such low energy seems to be a coincidence and there is currently no conclusive theoretical calculation that allows to predict nuclear levels to this precision.

And there is a paper with a ton of detail and some nice diagrams of energy levels [2], but i'm not sure it really gets at "why".

[0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.06308

[1] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1140/epja/s10050-020-00...

[2] https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6455/ab29b8