What does swiping left mean? I may not want to collab with someone for a particular project but that doesn’t mean I never want to see their profile again. Also swiping left feels like rejecting them. What if I’m just browsing the artists? I don’t want to be rejecting while I’m browsing options.
Also why am I limited to my area? I want to be able to collaborate digitally. I don’t need to be in close proximity to do that. I ran out of people in my area after 2 left swipes.
I would like to just click on the genre of artist I want, hear a sample of their work and then be able to message and favorite the ones I like.
This is the same problem that every modern dating site seems to have after they copied Tinder.
Swipe left - I never want to see this person again!
Swipe right - I must contact this person right now!
What happened to the idea of curating a list of interesting people who I may or may not want to meet right this moment, but I would like to make a list that I can refer to later?
Just look at OkCupid for what a disaster this turns into. I see an interesting young lady, but it may be late at night (like 2AM my time right now).
I would like to put her on my personal list of someone I may want to contact at a more reasonable hour, and after I've had a chance to read her profile more thoroughly.
My only choices are to swipe left and forget her forever, or swipe right and send her a "like" and I'd better send her a message right now!
Maybe there are a few young ladies I may be interested in contacting.
Why doesn't the site let me make a list of them?
I did finally figure out a hack. If I click the little "down arrow" at the bottom of the main page, it takes me to her profile. Then I can use the "share" link in Chrome to create a draft in Gmail with a link to her profile!
I have a lot of drafts now.
This really sucks. If you are a dating site, just let me make a list of the profiles of interesting young ladies!
The same applies to a site for musicians I may want to contact to play music with.
Thanks for the feedback! Having a skip, but not reject sounds useful.
I have in the roadmap a "don't limit to my area" option!
Also plan to have some sort of inline playable sample on the profile, but haven't figured out the best way to do that - video vs audio vs embedding SoundCloud or YouTube.
Agreed, I don't understand this Tinder-swipe craze. You should check out my competing app Bandit, at bandit-app.com, which offers what you're looking for without the superficial dating/swipe aspect. You can browse musicians without having to reject any, you can come back to them at any time. Also, you can pick any area you would like. There's a lot of features coming soon including integrating audio samples, equipment, etc and many third party integrations!
1) You should have "drum machine" or "sampler" as an instrument option for hip-hop/electronic producers looking to connect with other beatmakers, I get it's for live band type stuff but plenty of electronic-based production teams double up and form teams.
2) The email entry box on the first screen of the mobile app is some non-standard input. I had to manually type in my email when every other app autocomplted with 1password
Ease of recording has made remote bands and collaborations very common, you can trade stems with people anywhere and make music.
This would be a million times more useful without the geographical restriction, although I concede if the true intent is to make in person bands then sure, it's useful. Just consider the wider market.
A lot of people have mentioned this, so I'll add the toggle to disable "local artists only" to the top of my TODO. Though I suppose genre filtering would need to be built first, or it would be obnoxious.
I figured that "allow once, approximate location" would be sufficient for the privacy conscious.
A little scared to make it selectable, as it would make it much easier for spammers/scammers to target locations, as the only verification is email. I do realize they can still change their location that with an emulator.
Since it’s designed to have people meet up, it’s important to require a photo. It’s a safety thing.
This seems like it would be the first feature (what photo-swipe is to Tinder) but it would be nice if, when the card is displayed, you heard a sample of the musician’s music. It’s odd that the cards are silent. The entire app should be a sonic experience. Linking to YouTube is fine but why send people away from the app?
Also, sad but true, don’t forget to populate every major city with a few really good looking and sounding fake profiles. There were just 5 blank profiles near me.
Love the idea, but I've tried similar apps in the past and they all suffer from lack of critical mass, and/or lots of accounts with little activity. I'd love it if this one were different, but Craigslist has been the most consistent way I've found to connect with musicians.
Other services I've tried are Hendrix (gohendrix.com) and Vampr
I find that the more music creation and distribution is gamified, the less gratifying it is for me. Discovery of the music and people who share your distinct musical passions is such and important part of the process of enjoying music and it's creation. On first look I thought, interesting, why would they go ruin the best (if also one of the more frustrating) parts of music creation. No thanks, too derivative and solving a problem in a way that feels icky to me.
Neat idea but the musician directory seems buggy. After scrolling once through a few musicians I can’t seem to return to them. Eventually the entire list disappears and I get a “no musicians in your area” message. No documentation, user guide, or support that I could find. It would be cool to see this working or to understand how to use it… i’m an amateur musician who has thought of looking for others to jam with.
Thanks for checking it out. That behavior is intentional and mirrors apps like Tinder and Bumble. Swiping left means you aren't interested in the profile and won't see it again.
Got a lot of feedback for needing a neutral skip, so that's on my list.
Also considering replacing the swiping UI entirely, as many people here pointed out that it's not really ideal.
Wow, I had a similar idea back in 2018 and I created a visual prototype for it with bunch of screens and did user interviews.
I didnt get chance to look into the app fully yet, but my idea covered musicians and people ( like restaurant owner/mgr or other ) to hire musician, I also handled a way to find other band members too. Would love to share my idea and details in case you are interested
In my spreadsheet of possible expansions, I do have "artist", "band" and "venue" specific profiles and some way to provide value to them, but I haven't really thought it through.
Would be interested in testing, however not available in my country.. is there a particular reason? Seems like some artists like to collaborate across borders.. it's not like a dating app where your location is crucial, and you want certain level of usage saturation in a particular region before expanding.. I guess what I'm saying is: why not open for all regions?
I didn't want to release the app without proper translations for the target countries. FYI - I haven't yet implemented the feature to toggle off "local-only" artists.
I joined a similar app .. it has a lot reviews in the app store (not to say those are real lol) and i was excited to join and meet fellow local musicians.
If you thought online dating was hard and judgemental ... finding musicians to play music is even more judgemental .. if you are a good to great singer for instance these apps will keep you busy. Personally i just wanted to connect and play music without the judgement (tho do want you to be able to actually play an instrument fairly well .. strum chords on guitar and lets sing along as we strum together).
I posted songs i wrote where professional singers were singing them and those got people reaching out. Their messages were like good song and did you sing that (i noted i did not) but they became disinterested when they truly realized i was not the singer.
I’m not going to install this because I’m not looking for a band, but it would be cool if you could keep in mind solo musicians often need to hire a band in order to play
This could be a good way for people to find that when they don’t have other musicians in their network who can fill that role for them.
seems like something a website could do and not require an app. I hope the dev learned a lot about making an app while building this, as that seems the only purpose for app only to me. Unless they want to get at all of that precious data hoovering money potential. I have become so callused and cynical from malicious devs, that's my first thought on anything that is an app instead of a website
Installed iOS version. Looks like I can’t even browse content without (1) giving away email and (2) entering profile information. So I uninstalled it. Please consider showing content before you ask for personal info from the user.
i definitely get this sentiment, but as someone who's used similar apps for other stuff, i prefer knowing that people who are viewing my profile at least had some email verification
yes anyone can use a throwaway email, maybe it's all irrational, but i know from user interviews i'm not the only one who feels that way
same thing for app vs web. there's at least a feeling that scammers/hackers/creeps on the other side of the world have less access to my personal info. again maybe it's fake, but the perception is there. (otherwise generally i would prefer web > app 100 times out of 100)
Great idea, I always wanted to build something to do with music and musicians but never did I think of this case. I can see it useful and a website instead of an app to begin with will make it easier for many to try and test.
I think this would be awesome as a normal search classifieds kind of thing, not as a Tinder thing.
Tinder's selling point isn't the swiping mechanism itself, but that it's taking something publicly taboo, harem culture, and enabling it by taking it private, with a discrete, subtle, and low-stakes mechanism for participating in that culture.
There's nothing to hide when it comes to finding musicians to jam with, so that's why I think a more traditional search & filter thing would be better suited for this.
Does the app feature music by musicians? As a musician that's what I'd expect to see myself, because seeing a bunch of people only talking about what they do is useless in terms of conveying style and skill. It also enables scammers and fraud if people aren't required to at least upload a video of themselves in action.
Back in the old days, we had a local paper that allowed musicians to connect from a classified section, and boy was it scary meeting some of the strangers that posted in there to jam.
Since this is the first iteration, I went the easiest route where people link their SoundCloud/Spotify/or Youtube channel.
I considered having MP3 uploads or even video uploads, but didn't seem worth it building a transcoding/streaming system, when someone could still upload things that is not them playing.
Another idea is to "verify" linked Spotify accounts by having the artist place a short random code in their Spotify bio, to prove they are actually the artist.
There's a simple website for where I live (Berlin) which is basically musical want ads. Biggest problem is that while it allows it, most musicians don't include an audio clip. People self-describing their musical ability is almost entirely useless.
[+] [-] novaomnidev|1 year ago|reply
Also why am I limited to my area? I want to be able to collaborate digitally. I don’t need to be in close proximity to do that. I ran out of people in my area after 2 left swipes.
I would like to just click on the genre of artist I want, hear a sample of their work and then be able to message and favorite the ones I like.
[+] [-] Stratoscope|1 year ago|reply
Swipe left - I never want to see this person again!
Swipe right - I must contact this person right now!
What happened to the idea of curating a list of interesting people who I may or may not want to meet right this moment, but I would like to make a list that I can refer to later?
Just look at OkCupid for what a disaster this turns into. I see an interesting young lady, but it may be late at night (like 2AM my time right now).
I would like to put her on my personal list of someone I may want to contact at a more reasonable hour, and after I've had a chance to read her profile more thoroughly.
My only choices are to swipe left and forget her forever, or swipe right and send her a "like" and I'd better send her a message right now!
Maybe there are a few young ladies I may be interested in contacting.
Why doesn't the site let me make a list of them?
I did finally figure out a hack. If I click the little "down arrow" at the bottom of the main page, it takes me to her profile. Then I can use the "share" link in Chrome to create a draft in Gmail with a link to her profile!
I have a lot of drafts now.
This really sucks. If you are a dating site, just let me make a list of the profiles of interesting young ladies!
The same applies to a site for musicians I may want to contact to play music with.
[+] [-] pg5|1 year ago|reply
I have in the roadmap a "don't limit to my area" option!
Also plan to have some sort of inline playable sample on the profile, but haven't figured out the best way to do that - video vs audio vs embedding SoundCloud or YouTube.
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[0] https://vampr.me/
[+] [-] dmix|1 year ago|reply
1) You should have "drum machine" or "sampler" as an instrument option for hip-hop/electronic producers looking to connect with other beatmakers, I get it's for live band type stuff but plenty of electronic-based production teams double up and form teams.
2) The email entry box on the first screen of the mobile app is some non-standard input. I had to manually type in my email when every other app autocomplted with 1password
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[+] [-] PUSH_AX|1 year ago|reply
This would be a million times more useful without the geographical restriction, although I concede if the true intent is to make in person bands then sure, it's useful. Just consider the wider market.
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A little scared to make it selectable, as it would make it much easier for spammers/scammers to target locations, as the only verification is email. I do realize they can still change their location that with an emulator.
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Since it’s designed to have people meet up, it’s important to require a photo. It’s a safety thing.
This seems like it would be the first feature (what photo-swipe is to Tinder) but it would be nice if, when the card is displayed, you heard a sample of the musician’s music. It’s odd that the cards are silent. The entire app should be a sonic experience. Linking to YouTube is fine but why send people away from the app?
Also, sad but true, don’t forget to populate every major city with a few really good looking and sounding fake profiles. There were just 5 blank profiles near me.
[+] [-] electrondood|1 year ago|reply
Love the app idea!
[+] [-] ericyd|1 year ago|reply
Other services I've tried are Hendrix (gohendrix.com) and Vampr
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[+] [-] pg5|1 year ago|reply
Got a lot of feedback for needing a neutral skip, so that's on my list.
Also considering replacing the swiping UI entirely, as many people here pointed out that it's not really ideal.
[+] [-] jyash97|1 year ago|reply
I didnt get chance to look into the app fully yet, but my idea covered musicians and people ( like restaurant owner/mgr or other ) to hire musician, I also handled a way to find other band members too. Would love to share my idea and details in case you are interested
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jhg7nm at Virginia.edu
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[+] [-] paul7986|1 year ago|reply
If you thought online dating was hard and judgemental ... finding musicians to play music is even more judgemental .. if you are a good to great singer for instance these apps will keep you busy. Personally i just wanted to connect and play music without the judgement (tho do want you to be able to actually play an instrument fairly well .. strum chords on guitar and lets sing along as we strum together).
I posted songs i wrote where professional singers were singing them and those got people reaching out. Their messages were like good song and did you sing that (i noted i did not) but they became disinterested when they truly realized i was not the singer.
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This could be a good way for people to find that when they don’t have other musicians in their network who can fill that role for them.
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yes anyone can use a throwaway email, maybe it's all irrational, but i know from user interviews i'm not the only one who feels that way
same thing for app vs web. there's at least a feeling that scammers/hackers/creeps on the other side of the world have less access to my personal info. again maybe it's fake, but the perception is there. (otherwise generally i would prefer web > app 100 times out of 100)
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Tinder's selling point isn't the swiping mechanism itself, but that it's taking something publicly taboo, harem culture, and enabling it by taking it private, with a discrete, subtle, and low-stakes mechanism for participating in that culture.
There's nothing to hide when it comes to finding musicians to jam with, so that's why I think a more traditional search & filter thing would be better suited for this.
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[+] [-] winternett|1 year ago|reply
Back in the old days, we had a local paper that allowed musicians to connect from a classified section, and boy was it scary meeting some of the strangers that posted in there to jam.
[+] [-] pg5|1 year ago|reply
I considered having MP3 uploads or even video uploads, but didn't seem worth it building a transcoding/streaming system, when someone could still upload things that is not them playing.
Another idea is to "verify" linked Spotify accounts by having the artist place a short random code in their Spotify bio, to prove they are actually the artist.
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