[Vermyndax]

If I wanted to use OpenAI, I would. If I wanted to use StackOverflow, I would. Now I just only get to use OpenAI no matter what.

This hellscape is forming way too fast.

[Gormo]

The article says that they're partnering to incorporate OpenAI's algorithms into a generative AI solution that SO was already working on in parallel to their Q&A sites, and to allow data from SO sites to be accessible to OpenAI's own solutions.

It doesn't indicate that generative AI is going to be shoehorned into StackOverflow's websites. It would seem counterproductive, in fact, to do that, since the gist of this seems to be that StackOverflow provides a large wealth of organized, validated human-generated knowledge, which is exactly the sort of thing you want to train LLMs on. Feeding AI-generated data back into that would diminish the value of the data SO hosts for that purpose.

[KeplerBoy]

Too bad OpenAI already scrapped all of this data years ago and is in a position of power here.

[jononor]

I hope that StackOverflow people understand this. And that they do not panic because their usage/engagement metrics is down quite a bit over the last years.

[shawn_w]

SO corporate has been trying to shoehorn AI into the sites ever since it became the latest buzzword. It's been largely laughably bad and is alienating the community, who don't want it and aren't asking for it.

[venusenvy47]

Can't we continue to use StackOverflow as normal? Wouldn't that normal use case (using the web page) be unencumbered by any AI stuff?

[wokwokwok]

Honestly it's not clear the SO actually gets anything out of this deal, other than:

> provide attribution to the Stack Overflow community within ChatGPT

...and that didn't seem important enough for OpenAI to bother to mention it on any of their media channels that I've seen.

so, who knows?

It feels like it's a whole lot of nothing to me, and exchange they're letting OpenAI having all of their Q/A data.

I doubt it will make any significant difference to S/O for most people; and anyone who thinks putting S/O links in a chatGPT response is going to drive traffic back to S/O is kiddddddddddding themselves.

[matt_s]

I feel like they are already very similar in the sense that any answers you read should be assumed as being wrong first and let them prove they are correct before putting something in your code.

[rocgf]

Conversely, if you don't want to use OpenAI and/or SO, you are free to do so. SO has no obligation to continue losing users for your whims.

On top of this, you could say the same about any disrupting technology.

[irjustin]

Honestly I barely use stack anymore. I know I'm not the only one and they're losing their lunch just like experts-exchange

[apwell23]

yea me too. i don't even understand entirely why i don't use stackoverflow anymore.

[amarcheschi]

May I ask what you use instead?

[ralfn]

I feel like they are announcing that OpenAI is going to be getting worse at answering technical questions.

I use OpenAI because StackOverflow answers are just the absolute wrong answer. A combination of gaslighting (you shouldn't be having this problem), dogmatic enforcement of good ideas that started as guidelines and problematic example code that should not be trusted. You are better of with a reddit thread or a blogpost and much better of with actual documentation. StackOverflow is the thing that causes the bugs and the tech debt in the first place.

At least now OpenAI's competition has a fighting chance, because their models won't be poisoned by SO

[cqqxo4zV46cp]

If you want to be the only customer of a service, and have them do exactly what you want, you can foot the entire bill.

[gabrielgio]

What is the point of your comment? We are not allowed to complain about a service we don’t own anymore?