[VelesDude]

I think it was Paul Thurrott on Windows Weekly podcast who said that all these companies don't really care about privacy. Apple takes billions of dollar a year to direct data towards Google via the search defaults. Clearly privacy has a price. And I suspect it will only get worse with time as they keep chasing the next quarter.

Tim Cook unfortunately is so captured in that quarterly mindset of 'please the share holders' that it is only a matter of time.

[cvwright]

It doesn’t matter to me if they “really care” about privacy or not. Megacorps don’t “really care” about anything except money.

What matters to me is that they continue to see privacy as something they can sell in order to make money.

[VelesDude]

Yeah, some poor phrasing on my behalf.

I do hope that those working in these companies actually building the tools do care. But unfortunately, it seems that corruption is an emergent property of complexity.

[Cthulhu_]

The Google payments are an interesting one; I don't think it's a simple "Google pays them to prefer them", but a "Google pays them to stop them from building a competitor".

Apple is in the position to build a competing search product, but the amount Google pays is the amount of money they would have to earn from it, and that is improbable even if it means they can set their own search engine as default.

[spacebanana7]

Apple isn't ethically Mullvad, but they're much better than some of their android competitors who allow adverts on the lock screen.