[nikunjk]

Congrats on the launch - seems like a neat product. A few questions: 1) It seems like you iterated on a bunch of ideas that landed in this - what were some interesting features that the team was really interested in that you ended up killing? 2) What were the most non-intuitive hard technical challenges? 3) Have you successfully ended up having someone give up on Slack to use this?

[lele0108]

1. Spatial canvas based browser (we called it Sail). Had people who loved it but their team refused to learn it. Spatial tools are just incredibly niche and difficult to get started (besides Google Maps).

2. Auto updating across Mac and Windows (in 2024!!). Google Omaha is hard to setup, Sparkle is jank on Windows. Throw in binary delta support and it's an oof.

3. Our team builds Muddy on Muddy and ditched Slack when product got stable. Few other beta users and their companies as well. Slack is super sticky and has some terrific workflows, but more "quality" conversations today happen natively in apps and almost all apps have commenting functionality. Just easier to talk next to the context. So a lot of Slack convo's become "where is X" and we think Muddy will stop the need for those questions all-together.

[mike_hearn]

Yeah auto update on Windows is a mess. One way to get it is to use MSIX, in which case Windows will delta update your app for you, even when it's not running (Chrome style) but without the need for special servers. Unfortunately old Windows versions have a lot of bugs. My company sells a product that makes all that easy to deal with and works around the bugs but it was a hard slog to get it all working well.

Sparkle on Mac is great though.

[aranibatta]

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