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questinthrow | 1 year ago

While mister Simons might not be the best example, I sometimes feel that you can easily beat the market if you are well connected and have access to information that can move the markets before anyone else. For example how much know-how do you need to beat the market if you're a US senator? You know before anyone else what's going to happen regarding policy and can plan accordingly. There were rumours about this even regarding Simons' Medallion fund. About how all the talk about math and algorithms was just a red herring to divert from the fact that it was mostly insider knowledge that did the heavy lifting. Alas these rumours were never confirmed as far as I know.

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choilive|1 year ago

"There are 3 ways to make a living in this business: be first, be smarter or cheat" - Margin Call

paulpauper|1 year ago

it would seem like RenTec is the first two

paulpauper|1 year ago

You have no clue, sorry. Insider trading cannot generate the consistency and returns as RenTec does. Even insider traders lose money if the market does not react as expected.

There are tons of strategies out there that does not involve insider trading or fraud. One such example is simply shorting Bitcoin at the market open whilst going long QQQ. This has paid a lot , like today , in which Bitcoin is down 3% and QQQ down a tad. There are people running this strategy now which despite being public knowledge, is still profitable. Shorting bitcoin during market hours, in fact, realizes all of the downside of Bitcoin without the upside from shorting it.

There are other strategies like this. now imagine you assemble the greatest minds in the world and tons of computing power to find many strategies and run them 24-7.

instagib|1 year ago

Whether it’s a scam or not, I’ve seen a couple .onion sites for trading insider knowledge. You have to tell something to get in.

Beating the S&P 500 is difficult and there are now zero fee funds to mimic it.

ldjkfkdsjnv|1 year ago

Big funds usually dont try to beat the market, they try to dampen volaility while tracking the S&P 500

paulpauper|1 year ago

It is difficult but doable. most people would be better served to not try.

TeaBrain|1 year ago

One can make any sort of outlandish claim, but there's little point in giving undue attention to entirely baseless speculation.

infecto|1 year ago

That kind of theory is the same as chemtrails are real.

Insider trading exists but the amount of secrecy to make that theory a reality would be unobtainable.

questinthrow|1 year ago

There are US senators that make millions by using their spouses as intermediaries to buy and sell shares. Insider trading as a crime only exists for those that are not well connected enough

cess11|1 year ago

Did he put a lot of money into politics or did he stay away from it?