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alevskaya | 1 year ago

Quantum mechanics is needed to explain any microscopic phenomena in chemistry and biology - that is not at all in dispute.

The odd set of claims is that somehow biology has 1) figured out how to preserve long-range entanglement and coherent states at 300K in a solvated environment when we struggle to do so in cold vacuum for quantum computing and 2) somehow still manages to selectively couple this to the -known- neuronal computational processes that are experimentally proven to be essential to thought and consciousness.

This more or less amounts to assertions that "biology is magic" without any substantive experimental evidence over the last thirty years that any of the above is actually happening. That's why most biophysicists and neuroscientists don't take it at all seriously.

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munksbeer|1 year ago

I am a complete lay person, so I feel a bit silly challenging someone who is clearly an expert, but the idea that a physical process that has had countless trillions of generations of mutation and change, "figuring out" how to use an underlying feature of the universe to optimise, isn't far fetched at all.

It seems that the most powerful force in the universe is simply, survival of the fittest.

Jevon23|1 year ago

Biology isn’t magic, but it does do a heck of a lot of amazing things that we don’t understand yet.

We haven’t even been able to reproduce abiogenesis.

notarobot123|1 year ago

Any sufficiently evolved biological process is indistinguishable from magic.

GoblinSlayer|1 year ago

AIU quantum computer needs to maintain superposition, but for body superposition is not a concern and it doesn't maintain it.

aatd86|1 year ago

Yeah, a bit like when I try to lift my leg, I actually think about how to activate my neurons so that muscle fibers contract one by one... That's definitely not what happens.

That at some level we have quantum phenomenon doesn't mean that everything occurs at the quantum level.

Seems that even Nature uses abstractions.