[akgerber]

The car market in the US is pretty much designed to rip off people who fear minivan stigma & instead buy extortionately-priced pickup trucks that often don't even have a big enough bed to carry plywood or drywall.

[keepamovin]

Hahah, this is a great point. good to understand the meta dynamics. This is why I ask in HN!!! Hehehe :)