Claude is now available in Europe

[spiderfarmer]

Claudebot is one of the most aggressive scraping bots I have encountered on my server in recent years. Because of that I'll block everything related to Claude.

[JPLeRouzic]

For me (https://padiracinnovation.org), it's Google which scans several times a day, which is astonishing for a blog updated once a week.

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[dinp]

I don't understand their api not being intended for individual use [0], are developers supposed to use this subscription only? The haiku model is pretty good for the price + available large context, and the opus/sonnet models are in the league of gpt-4, so I would have liked to pay for the api. I've moved on to llama 3 70B as a daily driver and it works really well! The only issue is it's small context size and it doesn't work great if you give it a lot of files to work with. Currently I'm forced to break down problems a lot more than I had to with gpt-4 or the claude models.

I know I can access the claude api through 3rd party sites + official partners, but there's no incentive to go through the trouble when llama 3 and gpt-4 apis work great for my use cases.

[0] https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/8987200-can-i-use-...

[IshKebab]

I heard of people using the GPT-4 API for personal use because it's a lot cheaper than paying for the subscription since it's pay-per-use. Maybe they don't want people to do that.

[matesz]

So, in general Claude still beats newest GPT-4o model in software development category, right? [1]

Although new GPT is better at small coding excercises (72.9% vs 68.4%), it falls behind in more challenging refactoring tasks (62.9% vs 72.3%).

I used Claude through VPN from Europe, and from the start could see it was much better than GPT-4, in my limited very subjective use cases.

[1] https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

[hiq]

> So, in general Claude still beats newest GPT-4o model in software development category, right? [1]

I'm genuinely curious to which extent widely published benchmarks can be used for this kind of assessment. The exercises this benchmark uses seem to be available in https://github.com/exercism/python/tree/main/exercises, and it seems that there are solutions at least at https://exercism.org/tracks/python/exercises/series/solution....

Overfitting used to be a concern when it came to comparing ML models, but it feels like it's not being talked about that much anymore, is it? What if one model has the exercism solutions in its training data, but the other model doesn't, is the comparison still fair? If it solves 70% of the exercism exercises correctly, would it perform as well on similar prompting for unseen problems (which are more likely to be what I care about)?

[anonzzzies]

It is better in my case too; need a RAG open router VS Code extension that can be used with whatever you choose. I tried a few but they are either too expensive (i'm already paying for the AI, don't wanna pay monthly for an extension) or really don't work.

[pelagicAustral]

Claude is superb at some tasks, much better than Mistral or ChatGPT at times... The other day I got stuck doing some research that involved a heavily obfuscated piece of JS, there was absolutely no way forward using ChatGPT, I switched to Claude and I got the whole file sorted in no time. It really was able to determine all the passes the and techniques used to obfuscate the code and work through them in an iterative way...

[h4x0rr]

Meanwhile I was using it from germany all the time, not even with a vpn. It just works with occasional notifications "not available in europe", but literally just for a few seconds in the top right corner

[polynomial]

Whoopsie.

[ColinHayhurst]

Code verification failure on UK mobile number. So is it a EU launch not Europe?

[scoot]

Yes, it's an EU launch – the article is incorrectly titled. The terms of service update email has it correct: "Claude.ai is now available to users in the EU."

But that isn't the cause of your issue – it's been available in the UK for quite some time.

[anonzzzies]

I verified on a UK number weeks ago. It was available in the UK for a while already, but not in the EU.

[flemhans]

I already had access somehow before this, despite being in Europe.

[brylie]

The voice user interface for natural two-way conversation is GPT’s killer feature. Gemini also suppports voice input, which I use to make interactions easier on desktop. Hopefully Anthopic will add at least speech-to-text support, although I understand smartphones often include that already. That said, the OpenAI Whisper TTS is really nice for English language input.

[op00to]

I find the two way voice to be unnatural and difficult to manage. I also find myself needing more time to compose my thoughts in the middle of a prompt than the ChatGPT conversation input allows me. The weird breaths and stuff kinda creep me out.

[TekMol]

If you are willing to make an account.

I don't. There are enough free and open LLMs now which you can use without an account.

[ColinHayhurst]

And without a mobile number. What is it with these US AI companies requiring mobile numbers?

[kenniskrag]

Which ones? I try to learn how these systems work

[free_bip]

Still not available in Canada. Why? What possible regulation could be preventing use here but not in Europe?

[qxfys]

have been using it from sweden all this time. without vpn.

[DeathArrow]

Seems nice, I just asked it to generate a learning plan for applying dynamical systems in machine learning.

[WhereIsTheTruth]

0 job openings in Europe outside of London, how will AI solve this?

[reneberlin]

Now i can cancel my NordVPN subscription.

[gorbypark]

They banned my account a few weeks back because I asked it to translate some Japanese text that was on a kitchen knife. Still no response from their Trust & Safety team. It's frustrating because Claude is really quite good at coding and I used it frequently.

[SturgeonsLaw]

Trust and safety folks are the biggest bunch of weenies around. Yeah I said it.

[sinuhe69]

Haha, I was also banned for no clear reason (or perhaps mocking their AI? I don’t know). But then they reset the ban after a while. But it gave me no incentive to become one of the paying customers.

[szundi]

Open a new account then?

[Zambyte]

Yikes! If "safety" really means brand safety, they completely missed the mark here.

[mrtksn]

The worst thing about the western style censorship is that it’s completely useless for the cause.

For example, the internet is filled with blatant hate speech and racism, but because they don’t use the keywords or don’t show the designated symbols, that’s allowed.

However, the speech that doesn’t have intent of harm, it’s just a joke or have incidental content with symbols or words that are considered harmful, is banned.

In the last few years, it came to such a ridiculous point that The most oppressive regimes in terms of freedom of speech are those who claim to be the “free world”. They are also very unforgiving, you can’t apologize and move on. They will cut you off and never talk to you again. Even if they were right with their position, they don’t value you as a human being and if the cost to win you back is non-zero, they discard you. That’s fascism.

It’s not only that the speech is oppressed. Also, the product quality is greatly degraded because of this. It’s the worst aspect of everything, in proper fascist or communist systems at least you get some benefits like clean streets or free education.

[BlueTemplar]

Aaand it's because of bullshit like this that platforms are evil and ought not be used...

[dang]

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40353064.

[nurumaik]

Are you afraid for your and your family lives after posting this comment? If not, then it's not worse

[ivan_gammel]

So how do they set up troikas? A team lead from CS, janitor from main office building and someone from legal?

Can they send you to GULAG? Is that a German firm offering enterprise prison services?

[cbg0]

As someone who lives in an ex-communist country, I can tell you that you're wrong and the comparison is silly.

[andsoitends]

It truly is.

Like Google's AI that does not let you create images of faces rolls eyes

It is just kinda silly, when ChatGPT cannot tell me how to make a bot to publish posts on my own forum (I did it myself in the end) saying it is for ethical reasons, when OpenAI bots scrape tonnes of sites daily in such an aggressive manner that it comes near to a DOS attack =/