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evilsnoopi3 | 1 year ago

Literally only one of the drugs you mentioned can kill you due to withdrawal. Hint: it's not LSD or tobacco.

Alcohol is an _extremely_ harmful drug.

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Retric|1 year ago

Harm is based on all risks not just the metrics that make what you care about look better. 60% of American adults drink regularly so extreme edge cases happen, but they aren’t anywhere close to the risks from car accidents etc.

Risk of death is significant, but we’re talking under 0.1% per year.

red-iron-pine|1 year ago

Some absurd number, like 70% of domestic violence, 25% of sexual assaults, 30% of regular assaults, around ~40% of murders, ~15% of robberies, and ~50% of injurious or fatal car accidents occur when people are under the influence of alcohol.

that very few are overdosing isn't the issue.

margalabargala|1 year ago

See, this is where LSD gets interesting.

No, LSD won't kill your body. But what are you? You aren't just your body, you are your mind and mental state and the consistency of that.

Do enough LSD, especially consistent high doses, and the "you" you know will die and be permanently replaced by something else.

I of course agree that LSD won't put you in a coffin. But there are more axes upon which a drug's danger should be evaluated than "what percentage of users are put in coffins?"

Atotalnoob|1 year ago

I really hate the “LSD is safe” mantra people have.

I had a college roommate who did a shit ton of LSD one night and I woke up to the fire alarm having been pulled and him punching holes in the wall.

The police (fire department called the police) dragged him off and the hospital had to give him a bunch of antidepressants to short circuit the LSD.

He was literally not the same person ever again. That is terrifying, even more so than chemical dependency, to me.

Dylan16807|1 year ago

And if I try to change your mind about how much it matters to get a new perspective and new evaluation on some things, I might murder you.

A conundrum.

lelanthran|1 year ago

> Alcohol is an _extremely_ harmful drug.

Yeah. If alcohol was discovered only today, there wouldn't be a government in the world that would legalise it.

It's legal because its grandfathered in, from the time before humans developed society and civilisation.