[roboticmind]

This meta analysis talks about the findings of various RCT (Randomized controlled trial) studies in there.

From another meta analysis which talks about this more directly:

>Nevertheless, several RCTs have examined the effect of vegetarian diets on intermediate risk factors of cardiovascular diseases (Table 1). In a meta-analysis of RCTs, Wang et al. (22) found vegetarian diets to significantly lower blood concentrations of total, LDL, HDL, and non-HDL cholesterol relative to a range of omnivorous control diets. Other meta-analyses have found vegetarian diets to lower blood pressure, enhance weight loss, and improve glycemic control to greater extent than omnivorous comparison diets (23-25). Taken together, the beneficial effects of such diets on established proximal determinants of cardiovascular diseases found in RCTs, and their inverse associations with hard cardiovascular endpoints found in prospective cohort studies provide strong support for the adoption of healthful plant-based diets for cardiovascular disease prevention

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/am/pii/S105017...

India and Hong Kong have very different levels of income. Comparing the two is rather misleading when that's going to affect things like access to healthcare

[bairen]

Lowering your ldl might actually make you die early.

https://www.youtube.com/live/LSIyg_Z_ye4?si=O5uMFqligFcuPS8m

A high ldl over the age of 60 is associated with a lower all cause mortality.

And you are kinda right, having a higher income means you can afford more red meat and live longer.

[roboticmind]

If we're going to be citing a random YouTube video as the same weight as scientific studies, I don't see much point in continuing this conversation

[knightoffaith]

But I wonder if the high saturated fat content in fattier meats and meat's higher caloric content are still confounders here. I would be shocked if controlling for calories, saturated fat, and fiber still yielded differences in these risk factors.

[roboticmind]

The RCT studies listed in the table of the cited thing compare against lean meats as well