I still don't get why there aren't enough monitor panels that are 5K so they can fit with Macintosh's retina standard. What ends up happening is the scaling is done at an incorrect multiple so the dpi causes text to be blurry and not clear.
I guess will have to stick with my LG Ultrafine for another year.
90% of desktop users use an OS which supports DPI scaling and doesn't have this problem. The remaining 10% have intentionally chosen to buy a computer where ordinary peripherals like monitors or mice don't quite work right by design, and instead have to remain within an "ecosystem" of products primarily from the same vendor.
In other words - Macintosh's "retina standard" is the issue. Use a computer which is fit for purpose.
Until recently, you had to make trade-offs between physical dimensions, pixel density, and refresh rate. Almost nobody prioritized pixel density. But now DisplayPort and HDMI have enough bandwidth that you can have 120 Hz 5k/6k displays, so maybe resolutions higher than 4k will finally become common.
I use a similar monitor to this and I don’t notice the difference between 4K+ at 28” and the Retina display on my MacBook. The difference between the 4K and a 27” QHD that I sometimes use at work is quite noticeable.
if someone is looking for monitor, i can recommend the LG 28MQ780 [0], its 2x 2560x1440 stack on top of each other (2560x2880 in total), giving you 16:18 aspect ratio. i'm using one of these in portrait right and it's fantastic for coding.
The 3:2 ratio suits reading and editing text, because our eyes have trouble following in lines of text that are too long (think about how a paperback page is shaped, or A4 or letter paper). The counter-argument is that 16:9 is actually better because it's functionally two 8:9 panels if you split the screen.
The light on the back reduces eye-strain in dark environments by lighting a wall (if there is one) behind the screen.
Less reveolutionary is automatic brightness adjustment and the dark/light controls, but they might be nice.
It basically just folds into one package a couple of things that are good practice for text editing and reading.
The 3:2 aspect ratio gives you more vertical space than a 16:9 ratio or similar. The good-for-coders idea is that you can see more "pages" of code without scrolling, but also without meaningfully decreasing the length of lines you can see, since it's still plenty wide.
The Framework 13" laptop has a 3:2 screen. After almost 2 years using it, I... kinda like it? I think I would agree that I can see more code per screen. But on the occasion when I'm using another laptop, with a more standard 16:9 or 16:10 screen, it feels more "normal" somehow.
It’s 3:2, which historically people said it’s “better” for coding because it allows more vertical space.
Personally I find bigger monitor available today is more than enough vertically. Horizontal space is actually quite useful to be able to put things side by side.
Not sure if 3:2 aspect ratio is really optimized for programmers, but it might be something well appreciated by photographers since a lot of cameras (digital and film) use 3:2 aspect ratio.
I have a similar monitor at work. I find my adhd deals better with a single, wider monitor than with multiple monitors.
That said, as I type, my keystrokes make the monitor shake. This is visibly irritating and I still haven't solved this issue. Looking at this monitor I'd sadly expect the same to happen.
Looks like they’re using the same panels as the Huawei Mateview. Only these ones are VESA mountable. 3:2 at such high resolution, for me is a great experience. I’ll maybe grab one for my work desk to run vertically as I can’t do the same with the Mateview
Obviously only an issue for Americans, but the Huawei Mateview isn't widely available due to the ban on Huawei products. It could be imported grey-market, but only at slightly inflated prices and without any warranty protection.
The BenQ monitor will be commercially available in the US.
I would definitely appreciate the extra vertical space but I wish it was 32 inches. I don’t know if many people can comfortably use the native resolution with 100% scaling on a 28 inch screen.
Looks good but 10 kg/23 lbs? I see a Samsung IPS for <8 kg. 50" 4K Fire TV for 9.3 kg. I guess we don't really move monitors around once we start using them, esp if mounted, so perhaps a non-issue.
I personally prefer ultra wide monitors for coding, can have split windows for multiple files, web browser, terminal, etc. I don't know why people like 3:2.
All of the ultrawides I've looked at have poor text clarity. That's one of the things this monitor boasts, but there's no real measurement for text clarity. RTings.com is the only site I know of that has a measurement for it.
ndneighbor|1 year ago
I guess will have to stick with my LG Ultrafine for another year.
mmaniac|1 year ago
In other words - Macintosh's "retina standard" is the issue. Use a computer which is fit for purpose.
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aPoCoMiLogin|1 year ago
[0] https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-28mq780-b-dualup-monitor
chollida1|1 year ago
Can someone explain what makes this monitor better for the average coder?
hydrox24|1 year ago
The 3:2 ratio suits reading and editing text, because our eyes have trouble following in lines of text that are too long (think about how a paperback page is shaped, or A4 or letter paper). The counter-argument is that 16:9 is actually better because it's functionally two 8:9 panels if you split the screen.
The light on the back reduces eye-strain in dark environments by lighting a wall (if there is one) behind the screen.
Less reveolutionary is automatic brightness adjustment and the dark/light controls, but they might be nice.
It basically just folds into one package a couple of things that are good practice for text editing and reading.
kelnos|1 year ago
The Framework 13" laptop has a 3:2 screen. After almost 2 years using it, I... kinda like it? I think I would agree that I can see more code per screen. But on the occasion when I'm using another laptop, with a more standard 16:9 or 16:10 screen, it feels more "normal" somehow.
cherioo|1 year ago
Personally I find bigger monitor available today is more than enough vertically. Horizontal space is actually quite useful to be able to put things side by side.
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omoikane|1 year ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_image_resolutions_used...
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MrApathy|1 year ago
The BenQ monitor will be commercially available in the US.
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OccamsMirror|1 year ago
Love the 3:2 aspect ratio. But I would expect at least 100 - 120hz these days.
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xcv123|1 year ago
4k at 120 Hz will need DisplayPort 2.0 and a powerful GPU to provide that bandwidth (40 Gbit/sec).
Practically useless for its intended purpose (coding). Will increase the cost for no benefit. Waste of money.
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lylejantzi3rd|1 year ago
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-neo-g...
brotchie|1 year ago
Perfect for component.ts, component.ng.html, component.scss, and component_test.ts all to be open at once...
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pcurve|1 year ago
2560 x 1600 resolution is a bit disappointing though.
Too bad 1:1 display isn't common.
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ranger_danger|1 year ago
Do any exist at all that are being sold right now?
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