[apienx]

“Automation has always helped people write code, I mean, this is nothing new at all [..] I see that as tools that can help us be beer better at what we do.” — Linus Torvalds’ on LLM code generation/review (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VHHT6W-N0ak).

NetBSD still has an edge with its memory hardening, NPF, kernel-level blacklist, and “legacy support”. But I fear that this out-of-touch policy might eventually tip it into irrelevance.

[nequo]

It’s not out of touch. It’s a licensing issue.

The BSDs were burned by this in the 4.4BSD days.[1] It makes sense that they don’t want to be burned again.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_System_Laboratories,_Inc.....

[bayindirh]

Current generation of AI code generators are loaded with ethics and copyright problems. Plus, there's the issue of "copying something without understanding" angle.

The most advanced tools were template based generators and real-time static checkers plus language servers. AI makes things way more complicated than it is.

It's not only bleed of GPL into MIT. It's also bleeding of source-available licensed corpus to AI models. These things leak their training data like crazy. Ask the right question and get functions from training sets verbatim.

When everything is combined, this is a huge problem. It's not that these problems are individually OK. They're huge already. The resulting problem is a sum of huge problems.

[fallingknife]

Everyone in the industry has been copying code from Stack Overflow (and also generally shitting on the concept of IP altogether) for years and nobody cares, but suddenly LLMs come out everybody is a copyright stickler. Give me a break.

[chrisjj]

> "Automation has always helped people write code

... doesn't say automatic copying.