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gds44 | 1 year ago

Well US is not dependent on anyone for her Energy needs. Unlike China. Its quite vulnerable on that front if a few pipelines blow up ala nord stream.

This is also why the US has such a large presence in the middle east.

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Dalewyn|1 year ago

>Well US is not dependent on anyone for her Energy needs.

China's strength is they have the means of production (and maintenance) of everyone today, including the US. All the energy in the world means jack squat when all the means of using that energy rely on China.

Could the west regain our own means of production? Certainly, but it's going to take far too long at the point China starts pursuing Bigger Gun Diplomacy. We're talking multiple decades to reachieve what we've surrendered, perhaps even the better part of a century because we simply don't have the ambition and political will to do so.

I think China has been very shrewd with how they conducted themselves in the past half century or so. They've already won most wars they might be involved in before they start by seizing the economies of their supposed enemies.

kjkjadksj|1 year ago

China makes consumer crap not our guns and bombs. In a wartime situation maybe people can’t get iphone cases from temu, big whoop. Not the first time the american population rationed consumer products in wartime. We will still have power and air, sea, and space superiority which is what really matters.

mike_hearn|1 year ago

You can convert coal to gas and petrol, and China has a lot of coal. So it can be reduced to an industrial scaling problem which China is very good at.

mcculley|1 year ago

China imports coal from the United States.

kccqzy|1 year ago

The Chinese are building solar farms and wind farms at an incredibly fast pace. Have you seen how cheap Chinese solar panels are? It's safe to assume by the time they decide to make a military move on Taiwan, they will have achieved energy independence as well.

gds44|1 year ago

Its more that the army, navy airforce world over all are heavy oil guzzlers. Its not going to simple if its a long war.

croes|1 year ago

But you can pretty easily bring down their power grid

vundercind|1 year ago

Good point. Factories ain’t shit without power.

If we can’t get stuff from China, that hurts, a lot. If China can’t get stuff from China, they’re dead.