[pvdoom]

> Ideally it's should be a balance between customers and business

Nah, I think for it to be a proper third place, revenue and business should really really be secondary to everything.

[pixl97]

Property costs and taxes are just too high for that to occur in most places, especially big cities where these said costs have skyrocketed.

[pvdoom]

Yup, which is probably one of the reasons why those third places get undone

[fnordpiglet]

In retail that usually makes it turn into a fourth place - the store front this replaces the third place.

[pvdoom]

Yeah, its more of an ideal vs reality thing ....