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arrakeenrevived | 1 year ago

The cited "40% of college age women report being choked during sex" article is an NYT opinion piece where some of the respondents actually say they _wanted_ to be choked during sex, but the author of the opinion piece thinks they're wrong and choking (even if you want to be choked) is bad.

This isn't about protecting children, it's about prudes who don't like the way that other people enjoy sex.

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hn_throwaway_99|1 year ago

Thank you for posting this. Parent comment is exactly how lies get told on the Internet these days: write a statement that nominally has a speck of truth but with the deliberate intention that it will be misinterpreted by any normal person reading it.

Here is an article I found about that study, https://www.psypost.org/choking-during-is-surprisingly-commo.... So here are the lies:

1. It's not just "college aged women". The study was on undergraduates of both sexes.

2. The framing of OP's comment ("these porn laws are dumb when all these women are being choked!") was obviously made to imply that we should somehow stop women from being choked, implying it was nonconsensual.

3. As you point out, the study itself was more about sex practices than people being attacked.

Hardly anything is even bothered to be argued in good faith anymore.

wkat4242|1 year ago

40% is a lot but kink and bdsm is really becoming more mainstream.

I've been into this longer and it's funny to see girls wearing designer dresses with black leather straps and studs and collars etc. Good for them though. I also love being choked, by women in fact (I'm a man)

The cool thing is that these people will shape a society that no longer looks down on such things, as these conservative politicians do. It will take a long time though, in a country where politics is a game for geriatrics.

Dalewyn|1 year ago

>it's about prudes who don't like the way the younger generations enjoy sex.

Worth mentioning again that this is California, one of if not the most left/progressive state in the union. Absolutely dominated by Left/Progressive/Democrat politics thanks to how many cities are located in it.

As the old saying goes, one becomes more Right/Conservative/Republican(?) the older they get.

I'll sit back amused at identity politics players' heads imploding if this measure goes ahead further, because they always point and laugh at Texas, Montana, and Right/Conservatives/Republicans, et al. for this very thing.

quantified|1 year ago

An SF state assemblyman introduced a bill to limit cars to 10mph over the speed limit. It's just safety nannyism. Not everything is "conservative"/"liberal", and these labels tend to be meaningless. Obamacare was originally Romneycare was originally a Heritage Foundation idea.

dylan604|1 year ago

> As the old saying goes, one becomes more Right/Conservative/Republican(?) the older they get.

Once again, I'm breaking molds. The older I get, the more liberal I get, at least with the current leanings of today's "conservative" party. Banning books is atrocious to me. Dictating women's health is insulting. Allowing businesses to be considered a person flabbergasts me. Knowingly denying scientific evidence on pollution is not only insulting to me but future generations. The list continues to go on that I honestly do not understand how just because one gets older they are supposed to suddenly think these things are okay.

throwaway5959|1 year ago

Older men and women, including Republicans like being choked too. Try it if you haven’t.