[nolongerthere]

> I just wish Microsoft could get their act together on their OS and release a Surface Phone

MS has given up on mobile as a OS or device category. In fact I’d argue MS has given up on the entire OS sector, as a revenue stream Windows is increasingly less relevant to their bottom line. They only see windows as a way to bring other applications (read: advertising) to their users but not as a means unto itself. Ask yourself, what new OS features has ms released since windows 10 that is more than UI changes, or applications that aren’t really a core part of the OS? Adding dark mode or tabs to notepad are not real features that anyone needs.

The truth is that the OS has gotten so complicated and it’s nearly impossible to find competent talent that is excited about OS design and development so it’s barely possible to just keep the OS up to date with the latest hardware, there’s simply no time or effort available for new development.

[Something1234]

I have a feeling plenty of talent is interested in it. They're just not sure how to break into the role.

[sho_hn]

Contribute to open source projects.

[nolongerthere]

Same as always, apply. Specifically with OS stuff you’ll need to show an aptitude for it, easiest way is if you’re already a college grad and you took an OS design track. If you’re self taught, it’s much harder to prove you have the basics down, so as another person suggested, contribute to OSS projects, which also sounds daunting, but unlike web dev, OS dev is not somewhere where it’s ok to be mediocre.