[deodar]

Yes you can make sufficiently complex programs in scratch. You do so in Brainfuck too. That doesn't make either a great choice to teach kids.

[jonathang6k]

Hmm, I’m not sure that’s a great comparison…Brainfuck is deliberately complex, and certainly not designed for learning.

[deodar]

I agree.. I am sorry about the flippant comparison. It was probably unfair to scratch. My frustration with Scratch stems from watching kids (including my own) being taught it in school as the de-facto option and learning absolutely nothing about programming or anything useful in the process. Perhaps it is due to bad instruction.

For the amount of time and energy invested they would have been far better off learning a "regular" language like Python. Anyway just my 2c.