Kudos for shipping a product! I like the selling point of "$100K+ remote dev jobs".
Arguably a $100K+ is what someone in the US would assume to be the case in the first place, but still it hits the nail on the head being *exactly* what many people outside the US (and maybe a few more countries with similarly high salaries), including me, would want.
i.e, from the perspective of someone outside US: 'Now that remote work has put all potential candidates in the pool, let's also put all the salaries in the pool'.
The website is simple and has sensible search filters, especially for the location, e.g. "Worldwide".
As another person mentioned, "vetted" can feel a bit undermined by postings like this one
where actual salaries are much lower than the stated ones, but I have a feeling that whoever posted the job assumed PLN (Polish) and SEK (Swedish) currencies, respectively, which would seem reasonable.
Given that you've just launched, if these details are polished out in the near future, I'm sure we could all forgive a little "fake it 'till you make it" being thrown in the mix.
Overall like it, so take this as friendly suggestions because I like it and would love it to get better:
While I can get using the EU flag, which is also the Council of Europe flag, for Europe, it really makes it unclear whether the jobs listed as "Europe" are EU only (or maybe EEA?), all of Europe, and which countries are included... It'd be good to make that clearer. Somehow. Europe is difficult.
E.g. one job marked as Europe lists UK as a location they have staff, while another lists EU specifically in location.
Also: Currencies matter. While I'd happily work for a US (or EU) company, and have before, my salary expectations would be much higher if the salary is *actually denominated in USD (which I have done once), because of the currency risk I'd incur... As a shortcut while launching it's fine, but if you're going to grow this outside the US you'll need for people to be able to know what currencies are "on offer".
For similar reasons, you'd also want it to be clear to people which country they'd be employed "from". A lot of places it'll complicate things if the entity you're hired by does not have a local company for you to formally sign an employment contract with, so I'd want to know. E.g. if I'm going to sign up with a US company (I'm available; see profile) I'd generally just as well contract via my limited company instead as being hired by one gives me few benefits over just contracting, while conversely being hired by a UK company gives me (eventually, anyway) assorted legal protections that make it preferable to a contract unless the contract rate is much higher than the salary.
Thanks for your feedback! I've just answered a similar comment like yours about the currency, you're definitely right. This needs to be fixed and I've put it down on my todo list.
I understand your frustration about the Europe flag, it can be a bit vague. I'll improve it as I've written it down too.
I'll have to think about the country of employment. I'm going to look if that's easy to implement, maybe for some jobs that will be harder but in any case, if I can provide this information that can be useful.
>$100k is quite a bit below what I'm looking for at this point in my career.
It's a rough pill to swallow, but the rise of remote work is inevitably going to pull things down to a "national median" somewhere in this area. There will always be the coastal tech hubs where top tier folks can go to make real salaries. But for the most part we (in the US) are going to be lumped together and forced to accept something in the range of 2x the average income instead of 3-4x, similar to how things are in Europe. Particularly when you consider the amount of LatAm/Canadian nearshoring going on right now, and the absolute glut of junior/midlevel devs on the market.
legit question: do you have good luck cold-applying for high end jobs in this market? I just posted a senior full-stack developer job at 130-150 CAD and we've gotten 100's of applicants. So much wheat is going to get discarded with the chaff
>California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Rhode Island, and Washington have passed compensation transparency laws as of 2023. Some US cities also have compensation transparency laws, including New York City.
Having been on the employer end of this, yes, a small company can find it hard to justify the fixed cost of adding another state’s worth of cost/effort overhead to hire one person. It’s a nontrivial barrier to deal with for a fully remote startup.
One workaround is to use a “PEO”, or “co-employment” provider, to be the employer of record and handle HR, insurance, payroll, etc. Though it can feel like a rather weird arrangement when employees don’t technically work for the company they think they do.
I’m poking around while on an airplane, so the network speed is pretty slow. The site crawls to a stop with each character I type into the search box. As a performance booster, perhaps consider adding a short delay before firing off queries to update the results or decoupling the the search box from the query result?
Crazy idea: provide a search box, and when the user hits "enter", POST the data to the backend, which queries the database, and then returns the relevant results.
Also what does "no estimates" mean? I would have thought it would mean explicit salaries for each post, but i see many ranges, some with ranges starting below 100k (94k, for example).
I'm not making a big deal on 94k vs 100k, but the two points combined makes me (a casual observer) a bit confused on what is being vetted here.
Vetted as in, the companies are actively recruiting.
Regarding the point you're making though, thank you and sorry for the confusion.
The inaccuracy exists because it's (by mistake) advertised in dollars instead of the local currency.
As I work on this as a new dad after my full-time job, some little bugs are bound to happen while I improve it one commit at a time. Rest assured, every feedback is taken into account.
Some ads have their salary put in local currency, which is a lot less than 100k USD. IE. couple of Polish, Swedish ads. one swedish ad starts at 837k which is comical.
Yes, it's a currency glitch I'm looking to fix as soon as possible (when my little baby lets me have some free time). Thank you for raising this. I've deleted them in the meantime.
Very nice work, the number of American flags I see here really has me thinking maybe I should move back home in a few years. (Like, 5 to 7 - I'm not leaving Finland until I become really fluent in Finnish. Call it a self imposed challenge.)
Can anyone tell me whether they think $100k+ salaries are more or less common over there compared to 2021? My first job out of college with Epic was around $90k at the finish, but I was coming in fresh from electrical engineering, I wasn't a CS major. I plan to head back with the Georgia Tech master's in comp sci, and I'm pretty sure I could crush any coding interviews that got thrown my way even now given a few weeks to revisit my old Neetcode 150 Anki card deck. The only thing which might hold me back is the languages I like on the job the most are painfully boring (Python, Javascript, good old fashioned SQL, Bash to shore up the organized-electron supply chain).
Same, when I left the US in 2013 I was early career and the gap wasn’t as big but now it seems like European pay is just atrocious. I was ok with a 30% pay cut for quality of life, not 60%. Weak euro doesn’t help either.
Reaction to the name and not the site: it would be cool to see a listing site for jobs that are truly asynchronous: as long as you get the job done your actual hours don’t matter.
THIS. Otherwise it's a huge clickbait and absolutely nothing more. We need more "specialized" IT job marketplaces, as most currently existing seem to be fulfilling exactly the same role and not a single one is bringing anything new. For example there was something like "AnonFriendly" posted here on HN some time ago, I really liked this idea.
> as long as you get the job done your actual hours don’t matter
The number of hours goes both ways, it also protects you from having to work 100 hours every week.
I'll hire you to work to just get the job done, with no actual hours required in the contract, but you better believe you'll get 3 weeks worth of work to do in a week.
Ah, so you want a service that forces employers to tell the truth. I think that's called "Congress", but it looks like it's been abandoned for a few years now.
Nitpick, but if the filter options are mutually exclusive then they should use radio buttons or lists. Checkboxes imply that multiple selection is allowed.
Please consider a slight delay at typing stage to avoid this round trip after each character is being typed, it becomes very sluggish, even on top of the line connections.
I don't have opinions in terms of the product itself since I am not the target market, looks good in terms of design, I like that!
I reckon with inflation this is going to get worse.
However, we have 2 options there:
a. raise the minimum to $150K but reduce jobs for people outside of the US to basically just a few if any
b. keep it at $100K (for now), and let the person adjust with salary ranges filters
Mexican dev salaries are really creeping up. $1MM MEX is no longer "pennies on the dollar" unless by pennies you mean "most of the pennies".
So you want to hire top quality developers for cheap that are the US Central time zone? Well, so does everyone else, and they got there before you did.
I wish job sites would show total compensation. They show a Mozilla job posting which, when I was there, would consistently pay 30%+ bonuses. At other jobs equity comp has been 50%-75%+ of my comp. Comparing jobs looking at base only is useless for me.
If they showed "total comp" as a single number the next (legit) HN complaint would be "why don't they show base salary? everything else is totally dependent on how and when you value it!"
Looks like some jobs are scraped from other sites? Because some referral links are still in the 'Apply' button, for ex: https://rubyonremote.com in the Reddit job.
[+] [-] timelessmanners|1 year ago|reply
Arguably a $100K+ is what someone in the US would assume to be the case in the first place, but still it hits the nail on the head being *exactly* what many people outside the US (and maybe a few more countries with similarly high salaries), including me, would want.
i.e, from the perspective of someone outside US: 'Now that remote work has put all potential candidates in the pool, let's also put all the salaries in the pool'.
The website is simple and has sensible search filters, especially for the location, e.g. "Worldwide".
As another person mentioned, "vetted" can feel a bit undermined by postings like this one
https://www.commitasync.com/jobs/mid-software-engineerjava-i...
and this one
https://www.commitasync.com/jobs/senior-software-engineer-ob...
where actual salaries are much lower than the stated ones, but I have a feeling that whoever posted the job assumed PLN (Polish) and SEK (Swedish) currencies, respectively, which would seem reasonable.
Given that you've just launched, if these details are polished out in the near future, I'm sure we could all forgive a little "fake it 'till you make it" being thrown in the mix.
All in all, well done.
[+] [-] vidarh|1 year ago|reply
While I can get using the EU flag, which is also the Council of Europe flag, for Europe, it really makes it unclear whether the jobs listed as "Europe" are EU only (or maybe EEA?), all of Europe, and which countries are included... It'd be good to make that clearer. Somehow. Europe is difficult.
E.g. one job marked as Europe lists UK as a location they have staff, while another lists EU specifically in location.
Also: Currencies matter. While I'd happily work for a US (or EU) company, and have before, my salary expectations would be much higher if the salary is *actually denominated in USD (which I have done once), because of the currency risk I'd incur... As a shortcut while launching it's fine, but if you're going to grow this outside the US you'll need for people to be able to know what currencies are "on offer".
For similar reasons, you'd also want it to be clear to people which country they'd be employed "from". A lot of places it'll complicate things if the entity you're hired by does not have a local company for you to formally sign an employment contract with, so I'd want to know. E.g. if I'm going to sign up with a US company (I'm available; see profile) I'd generally just as well contract via my limited company instead as being hired by one gives me few benefits over just contracting, while conversely being hired by a UK company gives me (eventually, anyway) assorted legal protections that make it preferable to a contract unless the contract rate is much higher than the salary.
[+] [-] lucianh|1 year ago|reply
I understand your frustration about the Europe flag, it can be a bit vague. I'll improve it as I've written it down too.
I'll have to think about the country of employment. I'm going to look if that's easy to implement, maybe for some jobs that will be harder but in any case, if I can provide this information that can be useful.
[+] [-] Carrok|1 year ago|reply
[+] [-] ramesh31|1 year ago|reply
It's a rough pill to swallow, but the rise of remote work is inevitably going to pull things down to a "national median" somewhere in this area. There will always be the coastal tech hubs where top tier folks can go to make real salaries. But for the most part we (in the US) are going to be lumped together and forced to accept something in the range of 2x the average income instead of 3-4x, similar to how things are in Europe. Particularly when you consider the amount of LatAm/Canadian nearshoring going on right now, and the absolute glut of junior/midlevel devs on the market.
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[+] [-] CoastalCoder|1 year ago|reply
Just a caveat regarding Latitude AI, one of the listed companies.
When I applied about 12 months ago, I learned they wouldn't hire residents of some U.S. states.
I'm assuming it's because there weren't enough potential employees to justify the cost of handling that state's employer responsibilities.
[+] [-] snthd|1 year ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensation_transparency
>California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New York, Nevada, Rhode Island, and Washington have passed compensation transparency laws as of 2023. Some US cities also have compensation transparency laws, including New York City.
[+] [-] wrs|1 year ago|reply
One workaround is to use a “PEO”, or “co-employment” provider, to be the employer of record and handle HR, insurance, payroll, etc. Though it can feel like a rather weird arrangement when employees don’t technically work for the company they think they do.
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[+] [-] elAhmo|1 year ago|reply
Hard to trust the vetting with inaccuracies of this scale.
[+] [-] unshavedyak|1 year ago|reply
I'm not making a big deal on 94k vs 100k, but the two points combined makes me (a casual observer) a bit confused on what is being vetted here.
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[+] [-] lucianh|1 year ago|reply
As I work on this as a new dad after my full-time job, some little bugs are bound to happen while I improve it one commit at a time. Rest assured, every feedback is taken into account.
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Can anyone tell me whether they think $100k+ salaries are more or less common over there compared to 2021? My first job out of college with Epic was around $90k at the finish, but I was coming in fresh from electrical engineering, I wasn't a CS major. I plan to head back with the Georgia Tech master's in comp sci, and I'm pretty sure I could crush any coding interviews that got thrown my way even now given a few weeks to revisit my old Neetcode 150 Anki card deck. The only thing which might hold me back is the languages I like on the job the most are painfully boring (Python, Javascript, good old fashioned SQL, Bash to shore up the organized-electron supply chain).
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Stuff happens, humans make mistakes, can only be fully async so much IMO.
I'm not hiring anyone or anything like that, just curious.
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[+] [-] iLoveOncall|1 year ago|reply
The number of hours goes both ways, it also protects you from having to work 100 hours every week.
I'll hire you to work to just get the job done, with no actual hours required in the contract, but you better believe you'll get 3 weeks worth of work to do in a week.
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I don't have opinions in terms of the product itself since I am not the target market, looks good in terms of design, I like that!
Best of luck!
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That's like $60,000 today.
[+] [-] lucianh|1 year ago|reply
However, we have 2 options there: a. raise the minimum to $150K but reduce jobs for people outside of the US to basically just a few if any b. keep it at $100K (for now), and let the person adjust with salary ranges filters
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Well that sounds great position.
Salary is a little low though, hopefully we could negotiate!
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So you want to hire top quality developers for cheap that are the US Central time zone? Well, so does everyone else, and they got there before you did.
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