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rav3ndust | 1 year ago

just out of curiosity, what's wrong with the more 'traditional' Linux desktops, such as Plasma or Cinnamon?

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cypress66|1 year ago

Most distros can't even recover from a shutdown while updating (windows handles it since Vista).

fffrantz|1 year ago

That's why using immutable distros is awesome. Worst case scenario, you can boot the previous version.

I've been using Fedora Silverblue for a while and never got a borked upgrade. It's not without its own flaws, but if you can live with mostly flatpak apps, it's a pretty compelling package.

type0|1 year ago

Funny you say this, my windows can't seem to recover from updating. Several times it has been stuck for more than one hour at which point I yank the power and try updating some other time. Even the most slower linux distros update in minutes and never failed me for more than a decade.

simonblack|1 year ago

It's extremely rare that any modern journalling filesystem (Windows, Linux, MacOS) can't recover from an unscheduled shutdown these days.

hot_gril|1 year ago

Yeah but shutdown while updating is a lot less likely when the OS isn't forcing updates.

rav3ndust|1 year ago

on nixOS, if something borks, i can do a system rollback right from my bootscreen. easy-peasy.

on debian, i can create system backups/snapshots via timeshift and restore them if something breaks.

jqpabc123|1 year ago

To find the answer, try to convince a large number of people/businesses to use one of them.

hot_gril|1 year ago

A lot of the issue is that you were able to name more than one, and that was without mentioning Gnome or XFCE

wkat4242|1 year ago

I think that's the great thing about Linux.

Something like gnome is so closed down that it couldn't be for everyone. I tried using a ton of plugins to make it workable but then things break with every update.

rav3ndust|1 year ago

i mentioned the two I thought people moving from windows would be most comfy with.

for them, taskbar on bottom + 'start' menu = "neat, i already know how to use this!"

personally, i use i3/sway tiling window managers, and also keep gnome around if i want a full desktop. personally, i love the amount of choice we have in the gnu/linux world. if something doesn't work for you, you can select from so many other options.

"but...but...fragmentation! those guys working on cinnamon/mate/etc should just join gnome or kde and make The One True Desktop!" eh. i don't buy this line of thinking.