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There's no reason to say that any war with Russia or China will have nukes.

Russia has been bluffing with this all the time, drawing "red lines" which will cause nuclear war - giving anything to Ukraine will have a nuclear response; giving artillery weapons to Ukraine will start nuclear war; giving HIMARS launcers to Ukraine; giving F-16 to Ukraine; giving ATACMS to Ukraine; saying Ukraine can shoot at all legal targets and not just those within its own borders will start a nuclear war... and yet there is no nuclear war.

In reality, a nuclear war cannot be won, but Russia is preparing for a big war or aggression against Western countries using conventional weapons, and is using nukes as a psychological weapon to extort and have its way and allow territorial expansion through wars of conquest using conventional weapons.