> Some vocal corners of the American right are trying to resurrect the discredited brand of prewar isolationism and deny the basic value of the alliance system that has kept the postwar peace.
By “some on the right “ you mean your presidential candidate and most of your party.
Not to mention most liberals until five minutes ago. If you had told me twenty years ago that supposed democrats were agreeing with Mitch McConnell and acting out Team America World Police, I wouldn’t have believed you. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372588/.
Perhaps he's hoping for something extra from the defense contractor lobby or that America should return to policies neocolonial Monroe Doctrine with CIA coups, but this time claim Africa, and get ourself involved in more wars.
Going neocon agro W-style won't improve America's geopolitical status. Maybe he's having trouble coming to terms with China rivaling America's economic power and military projection that vaguely resembles what America did, albeit more flagrantly aggressively.
This is fallacious neocon reasoning. Countries are always looking to expand their borders, for many reasons. Few of them are Nazi Germany. What Russia is doing now is much closer to what Bismarck did in unifying Germany or Garibaldi did in unifying Italy. Or what Iraq tried to do with Kuwait.
Would it have been justified for Europe to intervene militarily when the US wrested California and Texas from Mexico? Maybe or maybe not, but it certainly wasn’t the first step in the US taking over the world.
No, it’s nothing like German or Italian unification. That’s ahistorical nonsense.
In both of those cases there had been decades of nation wide, protests, insurrections and guerilla movements in favor of creating a sovereign nation to prevent domination by foreign powers, Austria in the case of Italy and France in the wake of napoleon for the minor German states.
In Ukraine there has been a decades of nation wide protests insurrections and guerrilla movements in favor of creating a sovereign Ukrainian nation so that they will no longer be dominated by Russia.
Putin is not garibaldi, he is not unifying a people who have shown they want to be part of some wider national project, he is an imperialist.
As long as we're talking about fallacious rhetoric, you set the bar at a country having to "be" Nazi Germany, instead of just having similar expansionist goals.
You avoid mentioning NATO and the reasons Putin views it as a threat, probably because it would undercut your claim that there are no worthwhile parallels to WWII here.
wumeow|1 year ago
By “some on the right “ you mean your presidential candidate and most of your party.
rayiner|1 year ago
vwoolf|1 year ago
hi-v-rocknroll|1 year ago
Going neocon agro W-style won't improve America's geopolitical status. Maybe he's having trouble coming to terms with China rivaling America's economic power and military projection that vaguely resembles what America did, albeit more flagrantly aggressively.
chaorace|1 year ago
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mmaniac|1 year ago
rayiner|1 year ago
Would it have been justified for Europe to intervene militarily when the US wrested California and Texas from Mexico? Maybe or maybe not, but it certainly wasn’t the first step in the US taking over the world.
FuckButtons|1 year ago
In both of those cases there had been decades of nation wide, protests, insurrections and guerilla movements in favor of creating a sovereign nation to prevent domination by foreign powers, Austria in the case of Italy and France in the wake of napoleon for the minor German states.
In Ukraine there has been a decades of nation wide protests insurrections and guerrilla movements in favor of creating a sovereign Ukrainian nation so that they will no longer be dominated by Russia.
Putin is not garibaldi, he is not unifying a people who have shown they want to be part of some wider national project, he is an imperialist.
mpalmer|1 year ago
You avoid mentioning NATO and the reasons Putin views it as a threat, probably because it would undercut your claim that there are no worthwhile parallels to WWII here.