[Ajay-p]

I don't trust the device, the maker, the company behind the facial recognition technology, and you. If I give software access to analyzing my face it opens the door to overt and covert acts that further erode my privacy.

But really, I don't need a reason other than I'm uncomfortable with it. I worry about people who are comfortable with it..

[marcellus23]

If you don't trust the manufacturer, then it doesn't matter whether you turn Face ID off, those sensors are still pointing at your face. Do you physically keep the face ID sensors covered by tape or something? And how do you avoid other people's phones/cameras seeing you?

[warkdarrior]

And if you don't trust the manufacturer, how do you make sure you identified and covered or disabled all of the sensors on the device?

[catlikesshrimp]

>And how do you avoid other people's phones/cameras seeing you?

You are missing the point.

>those sensors are still pointing at your face

some phones have a popup front camera. The camera is inside the phone. It is obscured and it would be alarming if it pop up on its own accord.

[overstay8930]

Do you avoid going out in public? Are you never going to step foot in an airport? What is your threat model here? Because it's pretty trivial for anyone to get a 3d scan of your face without you realizing it.

This just sounds like textbook paranoia to me (as in, the actual dictionary definition as an illogical fear that impedes your normal life), because there's nothing reasonable about thinking FaceID is compromised to the point that you have increased your personal safety by not using it.

[kxrm]

> illogical fear that impedes your normal life

I don't agree with the premise that disabling bio-metric security impedes a normal life. Nor has OP given me any reason to believe they are afraid of it in the situations you described.

Passwords and pass codes (when managed well) are perfectly normal security tools to use to ensure your privacy on a device you own.

[phone[phone]]

> Because it's pretty trivial for anyone to get a 3d scan of your face without you realizing it.

Maybe we should do something about this rather than being defeatist and giving up on privacy.

[dylan604]

I don't want to upset or scare you, but if you've ever been in a picture that someone else has posted online to any social platform, your face has already been tagged, recognized, and a very thick file exists about you and everything you do, like, know, associate, etc.

[phkahler]

>> but if you've ever been in a picture that someone else has posted online to any social platform, your face has already been tagged, recognized, and

And that is a completely different issue. The OP just wants to prevent that type of thing when they can.

If I walked up to several individuals (maybe even you) on the street with a camera and tried to take a close-up, a lot of them would object. I don't think "why not let me take it, it's already online someplace" would be a convincing reason to allow it.

[MrDrMcCoy]

Theoretically, those kinds of images lack the necessary detail to qualify as biometric data. If they somehow do, then the whole category becomes invalid for that purpose.

I personally oppose all forms of biometrics for security, as it can neither be invalidated, nor is it safe from physical coercion. I also oppose biometric use for "tracking attention" because it's none of anybody's business but mine.

[jobs_throwaway]

Or walked through any major city. There's cameras ~everywhere.

[happyopossum]

> If I give software access to analyzing my face

I have the legal right to ‘analyze your face’ if you are out in public. Why do you believe that there’s something special about a highly secured, on device FaceID capture that makes it more dangerous than a guy with a camera across the street?

[gretch]

If you don’t trust them, then your act of not giving “software access” does nothing.